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Internet Linguist. NYT bestselling author of BECAUSE INTERNET, a book about internet language. Resident Linguist @WIRED. Podcast @lingthusiasm. she/her

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    Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

    i feel the need to make you aware of this cursèd and entirely real wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_hundred …pic.twitter.com/5knzppTdgQ

    The long hundred, also known as the great hundred or twelfty,[1] is the number that was referred to as "hundred" in Germanic languages prior to the 15th century, which is now known as 120, one hundred and twenty, or six score.
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      2. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        "but gretchen, if six score was a hundred, what did they call five score, aka The Number Previously Known As A Hundred?" don't worry my friend, this number was known by the extremely logical name of "tenty"

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      3. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted

        I mean, we still use "dozen", I'm just saying!! #BringBackTwelfty2k20 https://twitter.com/kylejbritt/status/1277825126529224705 …

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      4. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Ben Leedom

        "but wait, if we had a base-12 system, wouldn't we need a word for 144?" my friend....we already dohttps://twitter.com/mostlysafe/status/1277825436064665600 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Ben Leedom @mostlysafe
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        A long hundred, also known as a small gross: pic.twitter.com/lqCCM8EJLY
        20 replies 44 retweets 441 likes
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      5. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted ryan@sleepy bitch disease_ebooks

        lomg humdred is lomghttps://twitter.com/fryan_get/status/1277824817186643968 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Long Man GIF
        ryan@sleepy bitch disease_ebooks @fryan_get
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        pic.twitter.com/CngRfcidbb
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      6. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Marissa Skudlarek

        headcanon accepted or should i say, hundredcanon acceptedhttps://twitter.com/MarissaSkud/status/1277826456500887552 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Marissa Skudlarek @MarissaSkud
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        people love to point out that the Hundred Years' War actually lasted 116 years, but were we meant to be counting it in long hundreds all this time?!?
        2 replies 18 retweets 299 likes
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      7. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        cross-referencing OED & Etymonline, and…maybe? "Old English had hund endleofantig for "110" and hund twelftig for "120." The -tig formation ran through 12 cycles, and could have bequeathed us numbers *eleventy ("110") and *twelfty ("120") had it endured" https://twitter.com/leftoblique/status/1277825373846163457 …pic.twitter.com/bwNV7Z3xt6

        eleventy, adj.
Pronunciation:  Brit. /ᵻˈlɛvnti/, U.S. /əˈlɛvən(t)i/, /iˈlɛvən(t)i/
Frequency (in current use):  
Origin: Formed within English, by derivation. 
  Chiefly in combination with a number or other quantifier: amounting to a very large (but indefinite) number or quantity. Also occasionally: one hundred and ten.
1841   Bell's Life in London 23 May 2/2   We calculate about eleven hundred and eleventy-eleven [carriages].
1905   Boston Post 18 Apr. 6/3   She got a rug remnant at a bargain sale downtown for eleventy-nine cents.
1954   J. R. R. Tolkien Fellowship of Ring i. i. 29   Mr. Bilbo Baggins of Bag End announced that he would shortly be celebrating his eleventy-first birthday.
1986   Sun (Baltimore) 26 Jan. 4 e/1   The number of copies made in American offices grew from about 20 million in 1955..to approximately eleventy zillion today.
        English, like many other Germanic languages, retains traces of a base-12 number system. The most obvious instance is eleven and twelve which ought to be the first two numbers of the "teens" series. Their Old English forms, enleofan and twel(eo)f(an), are more transparent: "leave one" and "leave two."

Old English also had hund endleofantig for "110" and hund twelftig for "120." One hundred was hund teantig. The -tig formation ran through 12 cycles, and could have bequeathed us numbers *eleventy ("110") and *twelfty ("120") had it endured, but already during the Anglo-Saxon period it was being obscured.

Old Norse used hundrað for "120" and þusend for "1,200." Tvauhundrað was "240" and þriuhundrað was "360." Older Germanic legal texts distinguished a "common hundred" (100) from a "great hundred" (120). This duodecimal system is "perhaps due to contact with Babylonia" [Lass, "Old English"].
        6 replies 23 retweets 231 likes
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      8. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted

        numbers are meaningless, time is fake, let's have some base-12, as a treat https://twitter.com/kylejbritt/status/1277826851629666304 …

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      9. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Ben Leedom

        yes!! extremely confusing!!! that's why people started distinguishing them by adding "long" and "short" "I'll have a hundred fish" *gives 5 score* "ah, no, i meant a LONG hundred" they're retronyms, like acoustic guitar and landline phonehttps://twitter.com/mostlysafe/status/1277827666540978181 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Ben Leedom @mostlysafe
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        Okay but for real, what is the process by which people start using a word that means one number to mean a different number? Wouldn't that cause lots of confusion?
        9 replies 12 retweets 208 likes
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      10. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted CJ Mo

        petition to distinguish between 100 and 120 by calling them "hundred" and "humdred"https://twitter.com/JanuaryMorris/status/1277831032532762626 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        CJ Mo @JanuaryMorris
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        Lomgboi humdreds amd their old mumerical frems.
        5 replies 10 retweets 178 likes
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      11. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Lingthusiasm

        I regret only that I encountered Long Hundred after we'd already made this @lingthusiasm episode about Weird Number+Language Stuff, because it woulda been PERFECThttps://twitter.com/lingthusiasm/status/1258568236460920834 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Lingthusiasm @lingthusiasm
        New bonus episode and it's about numbers!💚🎧🔢 Listen for: counting gestures, fossilized number systems (which explain words like eleven), different base systems from base 6 to base 27, and indefinite hyperbolic numerals like "bazillion" and "umpteen" https://www.patreon.com/posts/36532424 
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        3 replies 7 retweets 95 likes
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      12. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted aelle  🌱

        Ah, it sounds like folks probably also want the link to the Wikipedia article about finger-counting gestures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger-counting …https://twitter.com/aelleaelle/status/1277830098415226880 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        aelle  🌱 @aelleaelle
        Replying to @AmeliaRoseWrite @kylejbritt @GretchenAMcC
        This may be fabricated trivia, but I remember reading of base-12 cultures counting on the phalanges of 4 fingers, using the thumb to mark the spot
        4 replies 9 retweets 83 likes
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      13. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Eva Amsen

        "yes I know you agreed to pay me $500 but I actually put in the contract that I was to be paid in long hundreds"https://twitter.com/easternblot/status/1277835288610570240 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Eva AmsenVerified account @easternblot
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        This is going to be useful the next time I’m over the word limit for an article. “You said five hundred and I have exactly 600 words - perfect!”
        5 replies 10 retweets 135 likes
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      14. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Rachel Hendery

        okay but what about...a counting system COMBINING yan tan tethera and long hundredshttps://twitter.com/RHendery/status/1277838940716756992 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Rachel Hendery @RHendery
        This is wonderful, but I'm not sure it beats out my all-time favourite Wikipedia page about numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Tan_Tethera … Did you know English had a whole separate number system for counting sheep? And that it includes such wonders as "mether", "jiggit" and "bumfit"? https://twitter.com/GretchenAMcC/status/1277824138149847040 …
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      15. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Rachel Hendery

        yanty, tanty, tethertyhttps://twitter.com/RHendery/status/1277839991125585920 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Rachel Hendery @RHendery
        Also I like that the yan tan tethera system was used by both shepherds counting sheep and knitters counting stitches. A number system just for wool-related things? That's how you define a semantic domain, people.
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      16. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Seán D. Vrieland

        where are the speakers of the other germanic languages, surely they must be waking up by now i just want to know if the following are more or less cursed than twelfty: zwölfzig twaalftig tolvti tólftíu tolve tolvtio tolvetichhttps://twitter.com/sdvrie/status/1277846149559463936 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Seán D. Vrieland @sdvrie
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        *rolls up sleeves* pic.twitter.com/76Lh6mczuX
        9 replies 6 retweets 66 likes
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      17. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Maaike Verbruggen

        I thought quatre-vingt dix had prepared me....I was not preparedhttps://twitter.com/M__Verbruggen/status/1277836652803772417 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Maaike Verbruggen @M__Verbruggen
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        You'll love Danish numbers. http://www.olestig.dk/dansk/numbers.html … pic.twitter.com/dsRcZwO3RG
        11 replies 22 retweets 139 likes
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      18. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Franz Sauerstein

        do....do i want to know how many kinds of dozen there are in germanyhttps://twitter.com/FranzSauerstein/status/1277854985573761024 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Franz Sauerstein @FranzSauerstein
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        Want to make sure that nobody knows how many eggs you want them to buy in Germany? Ask them to get you a dozen. :D
        6 replies 5 retweets 70 likes
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      19. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Josh Fruhlinger

        i'm kinda sad we didn't use this as an excuse to develop "long billion" and "short billion"https://twitter.com/jfruh/status/1277833142972248065 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Josh Fruhlinger @jfruh
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        apparently up until like 50 years ago americans and brits meant different things when they said "billion"??????
        9 replies 5 retweets 96 likes
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      20. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted

        EXCELLENT https://twitter.com/danielzklein/status/1277856336491851776 …

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        This Tweet is unavailable.
        2 replies 4 retweets 54 likes
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      21. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Maaike Verbruggen

        oh no some sort of lifestyle magazine is going to make this the new hygge aren't theyhttps://twitter.com/M__Verbruggen/status/1277856646543421441 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Maaike Verbruggen @M__Verbruggen
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        Okay if you're hitting us up for the Germanic languages I'll add that my favourite quantity is Lagom in Swedish, which means just the right amount. pic.twitter.com/b8GY73TNbI
        6 replies 15 retweets 107 likes
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      22. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 29 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Franz Sauerstein

        I see @RHendery's favourite wool-counting numbers upthread and raise her...egg-counting numbershttps://twitter.com/FranzSauerstein/status/1277857896605331456 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Franz Sauerstein @FranzSauerstein
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        Originally, depending on the region, it's either 10 or 12. But eggs started to come in packages of eight, so people started referring to a dozen as eight. Wrong, but used widely. Some eggs come in half dozens, but people now get confused if a dozen is 6, 8, 10 or 12.
        3 replies 4 retweets 51 likes
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      23. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Maaike Verbruggen

        sometimes I hate being righthttps://twitter.com/M__Verbruggen/status/1277859679297773568 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Maaike Verbruggen @M__Verbruggen
        Replying to @fyfiefofaen @GretchenAMcC
        Okay this is ridiculous. pic.twitter.com/hA6QZmJqum
        1 reply 5 retweets 79 likes
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      24. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted David Kamholz

        you know what, as long as it always refers to the SAME quantity of sable pelts, i'm fine with ithttps://twitter.com/TaupeTrope/status/1277860157033074689 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        David Kamholz @lautgesetz
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC @RHendery
        The Russian word for 40, сорок, has nothing to do with 4 and 10 but instead comes from a word meaning a set of 40 sable pelts
        2 replies 7 retweets 85 likes
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      25. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Franz Sauerstein

        wait drölf is adorable (context for non-German speakers, that's a portmanteau of drei 3 and zwölf 12, I guess the English equivalent would be threlve)https://twitter.com/FranzSauerstein/status/1277860165262487552 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Franz Sauerstein @FranzSauerstein
        Replying to @MostFoolhardy @GretchenAMcC
        You are referring to Drölf, which is either a 12, a 13 or a lot.
        7 replies 6 retweets 111 likes
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      26. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        whereas now, I for one just use "metric" in this context as an intensifier, short for metric fuckton (proof from BECAUSE INTERNET) https://twitter.com/linguistlaura/status/1277873057084907525 …pic.twitter.com/QXcSctTpxn

        Informal writers who are oriented towards offline norms, like the 1970s Beatles postcards we saw in the previous chapter, sprinkle in dots and dashes to show they’re not standing on ceremony by committing to formal, clause-typing punctuation. It’s exactly the same motivation younger folks have for separating utterances by linebreaks or message breaks. The same reason, in fact, that Jane Austen sprinkled her original manuscripts with what seems to the modern reader to be an absurdly high number of commas, or that Emily Dickinson’s poetry contains a metric ton of dashes, if you can get ahold of an edition where they haven’t been edited out. Pause marking is really intuitive, and it always has been.
        3 replies 3 retweets 33 likes
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      27. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted CJ Mo

        everyone is! language is an open-source project and you are contributing to it all the time!https://twitter.com/JanuaryMorris/status/1277835070129295360 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        CJ Mo @JanuaryMorris
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        Yes! Where do I sign?! Who is in charge of these decisions? I’m ready to see a showdown between internet linguistics and old timey numerical traditions.
        1 reply 12 retweets 48 likes
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      28. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Dr. Emma Cating-Subramanian

        I love this! can we revive joint-counting!https://twitter.com/sigmastarstate/status/1277936020449832960 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Dr. Emma Cating-Subramanian @sigmastarstate
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        My great grandmother in Germany counted this way, base-12 using her thumb to count the joints :-)
        2 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
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      29. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Tobias Wolter

        alright the new umpteen is threlfty, pass it onhttps://twitter.com/towo/status/1277863111106727936 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Tobias Wolter @towo
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        Funnily enough, "drölfzig"in German is used as something like "umpteen".
        4 replies 6 retweets 41 likes
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      30. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Anders  ⛵ 🚌 📻 🦜

        fifty-eleven is also extremely good (and, I suspect, may also once have been a real number)https://twitter.com/bananders/status/1277868950001508357 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Anders  ⛵ 🚌 📻 🦜 @bananders
        Replying to @towo @GretchenAMcC
        In Swedish, we use "femtielva" for that ("fifty-eleven").
        3 replies 1 retweet 49 likes
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      31. Gretchen McCulloch‏Verified account @GretchenAMcC 30 Jun 2020

        Gretchen McCulloch Retweeted Conor Giles

        Yup, I definitely encountered the vigesimal system in my youth learning a bit of Scottish Gaelic as well https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fichead#:~:text=In%20the%20older%2C%20vigesimal%20system,%5Btimes%5D%20twenty%20books%E2%80%9D …https://twitter.com/MkGiles/status/1277872519144525824 …

        Gretchen McCulloch added,

        Conor Giles @MkGiles
        Replying to @GretchenAMcC
        Irish still uses vigesimal counting in some regions. It's no longer officially standard, but natives don't particularly care what the standard says. Also some places use daichead (two twenties) et al. over ceathreacha (just forty) and their ilk despite being firmly decimal.
        1 reply 1 retweet 23 likes
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