You’re pointing out exceptions, she’s pointing out the general rule; you’re both correct.
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She’s pointing out a biased view of the general rule. Grady was pointing out that women have always been involved in CS. Coding is actually passed down generationally, in the form of knitting. The same skill needed to read and knit from a pattern can be used in compiling code.
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He was using an anecdote to dispute a trend, that’s just bad reasoning.
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(you realize I can hear you, right?) a) twitter is not a medium that is conducive to thoughts that cover all nuance or context b) tell me, dear ramon, would would have been better reasoning?
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Of course I realize that. It appears you're trying to refute that programming is a masculine pursuit; anecdotes about some major female contributions do not disprove that claim. It is correct, programming is primarily a masculine pursuit. That doesn't mean women "can't" do it.
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I believe you are conflating two very different issues WRT meaning of “masculine pursuit.”
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It is undeniable that, in numbers, there are more men than women in computing. This was not the meaning Louise used; she was saying, in effect, that “computing is a man’s job” meaning, somehow, men are just better wired for it.
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Of course, from the POV of pure logic, specific examples neither support nor refute a statement as broad as hers. That was not my intent anyway.
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first compiler Corrado Bohm http://e-collection.library.ethz.ch/eserv/eth:32719/eth-32719-02.pdf …
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For a PhD, yes. Grace developed hers for the first operstional use.
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If you're talking about A-0, Ridgway wrote it and Hopper was the manager. and it was a linker/loader
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You are correct.
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none of the nit picky details take away from their achievments which are under appreciated. Lovelace, daughter of bryon, came to my attention as an English Lit undergrad, and i wondered what is this programming stuff? later I would learn the language named after her. Indebted !
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But details are important, and so I appreciate the feedback. But yes, transcending the details, there is an important, larger narrative at play here.
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Love your work BTW.
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Thank you!
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The gender or sexuality or ideology of a person are not essential to advancing computing. They are actually distractions that take away useful parts of the brain by diverting motivation, attention and cortical estate from thinking about computation.
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At the highest, most pure level of abstraction, I agree with you. But in all other aspects of the human elements of computing, with all due respect, I think you are profoundly wrong.
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Likewise, dear Grady!
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Then, on this matter, we shall agree to disagree.
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I just do not see a trajectory where you wake up people into separate competing group identities and it does not end ugly. Identity politics is toxic to pluralist society. My bet is that the current anti liberal us against them leftism will flip into rightism.
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I am somewhat sympathetic to that point of view, in the very most abstract sense. However...
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Both you and I come from the very privileged position of being white men in Western society. I suspect that many many non-white/non-men would (rightfully) point out they (tragically) have been impeded by the (clear and present) group identities.
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Wishing that were not so will not bring about change; it seems to me that first understanding and accepting the gender divide and the forces that led to it are essential to change, a change that will likely take generations.
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