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Dr Eleanor Janega
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Dr Eleanor Janega

@GoingMedieval

Dr Eleanor Janega: medieval historian (sex, society, cities, propaganda, the apocalypse), lush, founding member Bad Bitches Without Borders. she/her

London, England
goingmedievalblog.wordpress.com
Joined July 2013

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    1. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

      Today's thought about medieval conceptions of sex and incels (yes, I have a daily quota I must fulfill): medieval theologians shared the same attitude towards sex as the incel apologists who justify the violent outbursts of incels as a logical output of a lack of sexual outlet.

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    2. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

      St Augustine and Aquinas, as I remind everyone on at least the weekly, were super clear on the fact that sex work was necessary because if single men had no one to have sex with, their desire could build up to uncontrollable levels and result in violent outburts.

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    3. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

      This is why medieval cities usually kept municipal brothels - in order to ensure that men would have some place they could access sex and therefore not riot.

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    4. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

      A difference between the medieval and modern conception of violence, however, is the medieval conception tends to focus on potential group violence - so riots. Our modern discussion of it tends to focus on violent outbursts from one individual.

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    5. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

      (Insert something here about neo-liberal capitalist society's focus on the individual as opposed to the medieval conception of society as a group.)

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      Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

      The point is that incel apologists now go to *almost* the same place as medieval theologians did. There's a lot of hand wringing (sometimes in my damn mentions, which, please to do not), about how sex IS necessary for a happy healthy life.

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        2. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

          And like, hell yeah it is for mine at least. ((*GENTLEMEN*)) So medieval people were like yeah sex workers. HOWEVER that is no longer possible in our own society because we have spent so much time shaming everyone who participates in sex work: both workers and customers.

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        3. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

          So suddenly sex work is BAD and SHAMEFUL, and now if people say sex workers should deal with incels it's like throwing them as sacrifices to these terrible violent men so that socially acceptable women are shielded from their violence. That's not OK.

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        4. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

          Moreover incels are pretty clear that they won't see sex workers anyway because their complaint isn't that they're not having sex generally - it's that they are not GIVEN sex in return for just showing up, and that is legit not what is happening with sex work.

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        5. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

          Plus if you think they hate women generally, oh lord, you should see the terrible things they say about women who dare to profit of off their sexuality. I mean, it is disgusting.

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        6. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

          So the other option is like, 'Ladies! Be nicer to these terrible men! YOU should stop being so stuck up. Think about HOW HARD it is for them. Really this violence is all your fault.' I.e. women should just have zero standards because we're here to prevent men's bad behaviour.

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        7. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

          Point is, there's always some men saying that women as a group should be used to give poor poor men what they want in order to make sure they don't boil over and start destroying things. Also keep in mind that women are still also the too emotional ones who aren't rational.

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        8. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

          We've really not moved on from this conception of sex as an overriding compulsion that leads to men's bad behaviour. Mostly our only change is that we now also say that sex work is shameful and bad so that option is off the table as well.

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        9. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval May 2

          In conclusion, society, in my esteemed opinion as a social historian of sex, is disappointing.

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