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Dr Eleanor Janega
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Dr Eleanor Janega: medieval historian (sex, society, cities, propaganda, the apocalypse), lush, founding member Bad Bitches Without Borders. she/her

London, England
goingmedievalblog.wordpress.com
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    1. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval Apr 29

      Something else I’ve been thinking about in the whole incel debacle: the treatment of sex as a resource, rather than as an activity that you do WITH people. This attitude allows for incels to act as though sex is a thing that they *should* be able to access.

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    2. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval Apr 29

      I feel like this has its roots in the forever objectification of women and the treatment of us as chattel. Historically, men are literally given a woman in marriage and that entitles them to sex with her. The Western insistence that sex is only licit in marriage feeds this.

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    3. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval Apr 29

      Women historically have been treated as only valuable because you can have sex with them and have children to cement a male legacy. So women and sex are seen as this interchangeable object. The one is bound up in the other and only valuable because of this concept.

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    4. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval Apr 29

      And although women are treated ALMOST like whole people now, we haven’t changed our relationship to sex enough. That’s why people think they can earn or be owed sex. No one feels they are owed a good game of basketball, despite that being an activity that some people enjoy.

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    5. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval Apr 29

      I think that this - the objectification of sex - is something that we need to work on to move away from in order to stop this whole incel concept. It’s not a thing a person gives to another. It’s an activity that people participate in, often with other people.

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    6. Christopher Ryan‏Verified account @ThatChrisRyan Apr 29
      Replying to @GoingMedieval

      Interesting thoughts. But don't you think sexual intimacy and pleasure are essential elements of a healthy, satisfying life? And if so, isn't it natural to feel deep grief (often expressed as rage in young men) when one faces a life without?

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    7. Ricky Billingsgate‏ @ambivalentricky Apr 30
      Replying to @ThatChrisRyan @GoingMedieval

      If that were the case, incels would see their anger subside after a few visits to sex workers. I think their real preoccupation is status relative to other men.

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      Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval Apr 30
      Replying to @ambivalentricky @ThatChrisRyan

      Not that incels will see sex workers, or that sex workers as a group need to soak up the violence of hateful incel men, of course.

      4:41 AM - 30 Apr 2018
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        2. Ricky Billingsgate‏ @ambivalentricky Apr 30
          Replying to @GoingMedieval @ThatChrisRyan

          Absolutely. Just trying to express that, because they seem to think of women as (as you said) chattel, they don't just want milk, they want a herd of docile cattle which they think will produce milk on demand forever. And they perceive other men as having such resources.

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        3. Dr Eleanor Janega‏ @GoingMedieval Apr 30
          Replying to @ambivalentricky @ThatChrisRyan

          (Hugely agreed.)

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