GoingMadlem

@dave78pdx @cchauvet most the major arteries here have bike paths / lanes ... and some still choose to put themselves in harms way instead

@GoingMadlem @cchauvet Because they have to turn left, because there are garbage cans in he bike lanes... I could go on...

@dave78pdx @cchauvet those are reasons, most people around here don't have those reasons ... they just ride in the road because they can

@GoingMadlem @cchauvet I guess what I'm getting at is that many times taking the lane is safer. It's a defensive move.

@dave78pdx @cchauvet I'll have to video the stretches of road I'm talking about so you can understand ... ZERO reasons to be in road

@GoingMadlem @cchauvet If so, fine. Just speaking as an experience bike commuter.

@GoingMadlem @cchauvet Also, sidewalks don't count. That's actually more dangerous as you are blurring the line between vehicle/ped.

@dave78pdx @cchauvet nobody walks here :p