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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 May 2018
      Replying to @leoniee54 @WeDietitians and

      There is always a tiny proportion of the population who will have an extreme reaction to any food product, but by that logic we should ban virtually all foods aside from plain rice and water from our supermarket shelves

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 May 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @leoniee54 and

      For example, were we to "delete" sulphites from our food shelves, we'd get rid of all dried fruit and a whole bunch of offshoot foods for an allergy that is quite rare

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    3. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 10 May 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @leoniee54 and

      I have to agree with L here Gid. We don’t/can’t maybe never will know everything about food, ingredients, micronutrients, additives. History tells us we’ve been wrong before (IBS & FODMAPS a go to example) - we need to listen more - listening is science too.

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 May 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @leoniee54 and

      We may never know everything about every food etc, but we can make pretty definitive statements about some of the products we're talking about here. Banning products because of anecdotally-reported symptoms is a pretty dark road to walk

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 May 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @WeDietitians and

      I also don't see how demonizing specific additives that we know are likely fine for the majority of the population will reduce processing or packaging. If anything, it'll just drive food producers to less healthy, untested options

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    6. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 10 May 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @leoniee54 and

      “Likely fine” - the modeling for safety is based on old, potentially irrelevant, intake data. Sure upper and lower limits, but rarely any consideration to consumption over a lifetime” or “during growth years for children” or “during pregnancy” .... Modeling is limited.

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 May 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @leoniee54 and

      Depends on the additive. MSG in particular has been tested in blinded RCTs as well as large modelling studies and a number of in vitro models.

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    8. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 10 May 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @leoniee54 and

      If someone walks in to my consult room and says “look, I know msg isn’t meant to be a thing but I find x y z happens when I eat it, help me identify msg in our supply” I am going to help them identify msg in our food supply. I’ll not roll eyes and quote Epi.

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 May 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @leoniee54 and

      Of course not. But there's an enormous difference between you recommending low-MSG foods to a patient and us talking about taking it off the shelves completely

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    10. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 10 May 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @leoniee54 and

      That’s fair too. Similarly, doesn’t discount having the discussion. ...and not extrapolating to doom and gloom for the food supply at the first entry. Deal?

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 May 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @leoniee54 and

      Lol fair enough. I do find it frustrating that every time "processed" food is discussed the conversation centres around additives that have very well-known safety profiles (i.e. sulphites and MSG) rather than real issues like high caloric content and low nutritional profile

      5:35 PM - 10 May 2018
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        1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 May 2018
          Replying to @GidMK @WeDietitians and

          I know a whole bunch of people who were convinced by the MSG scare in the 90s that they were allergic, only to find out years later that actually it was something else in their diet after doing a proper exclusion/inclusion test. Ditto with sulphites

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        2. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 10 May 2018
          Replying to @GidMK @leoniee54 and

          Additives, and acceptance of additives is part of our “processed food acceptance” culture. Agree, small fry cf our growing dependence on ready made, but still a worthwhile contribution. What I’ve found works n.....

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        3. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 10 May 2018
          Replying to @WeDietitians @GidMK and

          ....eek sorry, intermission there....got sprung I wasn’t in the office yet ...”could you get X from my office draw”....er no I can’t *gulp* bc tweeting At office now....saving lives etc TBC

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        2. Rosemary Stanton‏ @rosestant70 10 May 2018
          Replying to @GidMK @WeDietitians and

          It's not the additives - it's the foods they make possible.

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        3. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 10 May 2018
          Replying to @rosestant70 @GidMK and

          That’s true too. What I’ve found in advocacy and getting change is you don’t always target the “actual thing” but rather the “thing that makes it possible”. For eg. Being a proponent for “social justice” gets you not very far - however....

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