No disco posts strawman attacks and then disappears when asked for the slightest defense. There are many rcts of individual elements of the guidelines I'd point you towards the 1,000-odd references in the main document as a starting point and then the appendices for more reading
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The evidence is all weak epidemiology which as I am sure you are aware is not proof & the diet was trialed for 7 years in the womens healthy study with no evidence of benefit. When compared to low carb and Mediterranean in RCTs it always comes last so its hard to claim its right?
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Replying to @akmcintyre
The Mediterranean diet is used as the basis for many parts of the guidelines. It is mentioned over a dozen times in the main documents. Weird that you don't know that
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Replying to @GidMK
The point is that there is no proof that the ADG works. Given the state of population health (wrt T2D and obesity) we should be questioning the recommendations should we not? Clearly they have failed in their intentions, which were no doubt good.
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Replying to @akmcintyre
There is solid evidence behind each individual recommendation. Whether the ADG "works" or not depends on how you define "works"
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Replying to @GidMK
Personally I define not "working" it as no success in achieving weight loss in the 25 years I have referred many people to dietitians using the Dietary Guidelines as the basis of their advice.
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Replying to @akmcintyre
If we're talking anecdotes, I've personally lost weight using the dietary guidelines and so have many members of my family
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Replying to @GidMK
No I am looking for evidence and you keep changing the subject and not showing me anything. Its a but rich to attack people trying to find better solutions to a serious problem when there is no evidence "the solution" ie ADG works.
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Replying to @akmcintyre
I've referred you to the evidence base, it's pretty easy to find. My personal experience was merely proposed as a counterpoint to your own
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Replying to @GidMK
Sorry I can't find it and I don't believe that evidence exists for the dietary guidelines. Twiddling the dials on a complex mechanism based on piecemeal weak epidemiology is not science. Science is showing it actually works. Complex systems react in unexpected ways to twiddling.
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Here's the dietary guidelines main scientific review. I re-read all 266 pages over the weekend, and skimmed through the references. Have a go, it's worthwhile: https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/_files_nhmrc/file/publications/n55_australian_dietary_guidelines1.pdf …
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