Thing is, if we did those things, our numbers would end up just like France's regardless of the guns.
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Replying to @RealSteveCox @emperorpuprtine and
Nah nonsense. France has a rigorous and restrictive gun control system - it's not all about gun numbers, it's access to ammo, policing, licensing, domestic violence etc.
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Replying to @GidMK @emperorpuprtine and
Guns can't kill people by themselves. They require a person. People in a system such as France's are far less likely to *want to* shoot other people. If people don't want to shoot other people, they tend not to.
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Replying to @RealSteveCox @emperorpuprtine and
Complete hogwash. You can't just ignore the impact of laws that you don't like. France has enormously restrictive gun control when compared to the US
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Replying to @GidMK @emperorpuprtine and
Compared to England, though, they don't. And yet, the SAME RATE of firearm homicides. How is that possible if guns cause the homicides?
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Replying to @RealSteveCox @emperorpuprtine and
Not sure where you got your figures from but according to http://gunpolicy.org France has 4x the gun homicides of UK. This is based off a 2016 WHO report http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-kingdom … http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/france …
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Replying to @GidMK @RealSteveCox and
Also worth noting that France has ~10x the rate of total firearm-related death as the UK. So yeh, UK gun policy saves lots of lives. Even in your example
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Replying to @GidMK @emperorpuprtine and
That 4x rate jumped because of terrorism, such as Charlie Hebdo. Try again.
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Replying to @RealSteveCox @emperorpuprtine and
Lol what a ridiculous argument. Do you think that the UK has been terrorism-free in the last decade? Also worth noting that my more recent figures are somewhat more reliable than yours, which are based on a 2012 Guardian article which cites a 2008 UN report
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Replying to @GidMK @emperorpuprtine and
Terrorists in the U.K. haven't used firearms. Do you know that gun homicides only count homicides committed using guns?
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And why in the world might that have been?
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Replying to @GidMK @emperorpuprtine and
Because it's easier to rent a truck.
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Replying to @RealSteveCox @emperorpuprtine and
Actually you're thinking of Nice there. It's gun control
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