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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

Sydney, New South Wales
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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @hearsaycast @Paul_Karp

      The fact that she received official confirmation 2 days' later also seems to indicate that the problem was not on her end

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    2. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @GidMK @hearsaycast @Paul_Karp

      The complication is the possibility of withdrawing the application before it is acted on.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Hearsay‏ @hearsaycast 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jeremy_gans @GidMK @Paul_Karp

      Essentially this is a "postal rule" debate, and I think the policy argument in favour of it is stronger here than in contract law.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Paul Karp‏Verified account @Paul_Karp 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @hearsaycast @jeremy_gans @GidMK

      High court says s44 is peremptory in its terms. Foreign law has to irremediably deprive you. How much room for policy here?

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Hearsay‏ @hearsaycast 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Paul_Karp @jeremy_gans @GidMK

      I think she is in trouble, but has a shot at saving herself. I'd put her between Frydenberg (safer) and Alexander (goooone).

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @hearsaycast @Paul_Karp @jeremy_gans

      Is Frydenberg at any risk? My understanding was that Hungarian citizenship requires, among other things, speaking fluent Hungarian

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    7. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @GidMK @hearsaycast @Paul_Karp

      Only for citizenship by naturalisation, not descent (Tricky to be fluent at birth!) The bigger issue is whether descent citizenship (specifically retrospectively granted to WW2 parents in 2011) is automatic or needs an application.

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    8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jeremy_gans @hearsaycast @Paul_Karp

      Mmm I looked into it for my wife (grandparents were Holocaust survivors) and we were told that it requires an application

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    9. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @GidMK @hearsaycast @Paul_Karp

      Yeah, but that may just be a bureaucratic view, about accessing government services such as passports. The fuzzy distinction between citizenship and proof/acknowledgement of citizenship is at the heart of the current crisis, I think.

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    10. Hearsay‏ @hearsaycast 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jeremy_gans @GidMK @Paul_Karp

      This is spot on.

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Nov 2017
      Replying to @hearsaycast @jeremy_gans @Paul_Karp

      That reminds me of a thought I had - what if a foreign country's definition of "citizenship" is different from an Australian one?

      2:56 PM - 7 Nov 2017
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        1. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 7 Nov 2017
          Replying to @GidMK @hearsaycast @Paul_Karp

          All turns on what the word 'citizen' means in the Constitution (which predated Australian citizenship anyway.) In Xenophon's case, the Court held that his 'British Overseas Citizenship' wasn't citizenship for the purposes of s44.

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        1. Hearsay‏ @hearsaycast 7 Nov 2017
          Replying to @GidMK @jeremy_gans @Paul_Karp

          This came up re Xenophon. The category of British citizenship he inherited was not considered to be "true" citizenship by HC, so he survived

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