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    1. Maarten van Smeden‏ @MaartenvSmeden Sep 12

      Why do we continue to focus on *doing* stats instead of stats comprehension and critical appraisal in the medical curriculum? I don’t care whether or not my doctor knows SPSS but I surely want them to be able to critically read their literature

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Sep 12
      Replying to @MaartenvSmeden

      Because no one values statisticians enough to employ them, so doctors are expected to run their own stats at some point

      11:32 PM - 12 Sep 2021
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        1. Jason Weidner‏ @jasonwides Sep 12
          Replying to @GidMK @MaartenvSmeden

          I've had a very similar experience in petroleum engineering. Statisticians weren't hired to do the core data work, leaving it to petroleum engineers (who weren't properly trained to do it).

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        2. Maarten van Smeden‏ @MaartenvSmeden Sep 12
          Replying to @GidMK

          But even when that’s true, the vast majority of students will never actually do a scientific study. Those that want to learn can learn in research programs of graduate schools, no?

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Sep 12
          Replying to @MaartenvSmeden

          That sounds like logic, not sure this is an area that welcomes such rationality

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        2. أحمد الهاشمي • hashemi‏ @ahmadh Sep 12
          Replying to @GidMK @MaartenvSmeden

          Even then, all we learned was export the data from Excel, import into SPSS, use a little cheat sheet to select the “right” test, copy the result, CI and p-value and paste them into Word.

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        3. Bentley‏ @Bentley57669901 Sep 13
          Replying to @ahmadh @GidMK @MaartenvSmeden

          That's a little scary. Stats and methodology are the two most important aspects, IMHO, of judging a research paper.

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        1. JH // from fairest tweeps we desire increase‏ @jhan2qt Sep 12
          Replying to @GidMK @MaartenvSmeden

          well, you could work in a pharma company, but even they outsource most of the work to service suppliers.

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        1. michael‏ @michael_at_work Sep 13
          Replying to @GidMK @MaartenvSmeden

          This is true but replace "doctors" with "everyone, everywhere, eventually"

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        1. Dr Susan Bartlett‏ @Susanbartlett12 Sep 13
          Replying to @GidMK @MaartenvSmeden

          We require medical trainees to do research (in their spare time essentially) with few resources and pressure to publish, thereby reinforcing the illusion anyone can do research.

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        1. Ben Van Calster‏ @BenVanCalster Sep 13
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          Ben Van Calster Retweeted أحمد الهاشمي • hashemi

          People are not taught about the complexity of methodology/statistics, so only statisticians think that statistics is difficult.https://twitter.com/ahmadh/status/1437305739521966084?s=20 …

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          Even then, all we learned was export the data from Excel, import into SPSS, use a little cheat sheet to select the “right” test, copy the result, CI and p-value and paste them into Word.
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