JM, Ioannidis goes into great detail as to why he disagrees with GidMk, it's not "ad-hominem". I can direct you to this if you want. GidMk mentions in one of his papers that Covid lethality is about "50x influenza". In all of 2020, I never saw more blatant misinformation.
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Replying to @Allconsidered1 @PienaarJm and
Well if he writes that it’s 50x, that certainly disqualifies him from any serious debate.
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Replying to @AlexeyZiskin @PienaarJm and
He did say that, the columnist of "The Guardian". Who ever in the media ever smeared this guy as they did to others? No, they actually hire him despite publishing things like that.
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Replying to @Allconsidered1 @AlexeyZiskin and
This is what he published. Where does the 50x number come from (it is obviously wrong and not in line this paper)https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-020-00698-1 …
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Replying to @PienaarJm @Allconsidered1 and
The 50x number came from a blog post where I made the point that if you compare death rates with serologically-derived infections as the denominator and confirmed deaths as the numerator (as we do for COVID-19), the number is many times lower for influenza
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Replying to @GidMK @PienaarJm and
The point was that we are never comparing apples with apples when it comes to COVID-19 and influenza mortality, but people like to ignore that for the dunks. It's much easier than engaging with the actual argument
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Replying to @GidMK @Allconsidered1 and
Yes it should be noted that the denominator for the often cited .1% Flu IFR (source USA CDC) is symptomatic disease. This study shows almost 50% of infections are asymptomatic which would cut IFR to .05%.https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(21)00141-8/fulltext …
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Replying to @PienaarJm @GidMK and
We have already discussed this several times. You are being stubborn and unwilling to acknowledge basic facts. How many flu deaths are attributed to pneumonia? How many are attributed to heart disease? The real IFR of flu is in the 0.1% to 0.2% range, depending on the strain.
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Replying to @AlexeyZiskin @PienaarJm and
This just demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of how the number of influenza deaths is calculated. It's a pretty complex modelling process that includes deaths not attributed to influenza, because we rarely test for the flu in a normal year
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Replying to @GidMK @PienaarJm and
Answer 2 questions for me please and try to be honest: 1/ If we did mass testing every year for flu, like we are doing for CV now, and finding the
in people’s noses, how many more deaths would’ve been attributed to flu?
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Those are dishonest questions. Please see this Wikipedia entry for reference:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_question …
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Replying to @GidMK @AlexeyZiskin and
Dishonest question?? It is true that there is mass testing of Covid and not influenza, and merely testing positive to Covid weeks back often yields a "Covid death" with little or no Covid symptoms. I've even read about car accidents. I think you can just answer as you wish.
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