I'm just one person, and while I've spent a lot of time looking at the vaccine studies my knowledge is now somewhat out of date because I've been concentrating on something else. If you're concerned about fraud, do the work yourself
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That being said, when I apply the exact same techniques to vaccine studies as the ivermectin stuff, I see no red flags at all for fraud so...
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People care a lot and want to see you are balanced and not bias. Hard to trust anyone ATM e.g
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Re: "People care a lot and want to see you are balanced and not bias." Thought about this a few days ago while running, and still find it silly. *bias =/= not focusing on stuff folks want you to look at* Bias implies some error in reasoning. But there's nothing erroneous...
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"If your response to 'many studies supporting ivermectin appear to be fraudulent' is 'but, vaccines!'..." Maybe it's the brain fog rearing its ugly head, but... why am I having a hard time imagining why this would (logically) be anyone's response? Or do I not want to know?

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almost every debate I've had with pro-ivermectin folks has ended with them shifting to attacking the vaccines
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My IVM-promoting dental colleagues mostly seem to support vaccines, but they utterly fail to accept that the fraudulent studies are fraudulent, because “BIG PHARMA CAN’T BE TRUSTED FOLLOW THE MONEY THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THIS CHEAP DRUG THAT CURED INDIA.”
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I mean, I’m only a dentist, but I can at least look at totally crappy studies and know they’re totally crappy pretty easily.
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Maybe we “lean in” and go with “but your internet speeds will be unprecedented! Get the vaccine!”
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That won’t work, you have to say it will increase the size of your genitals.
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