They didn't do the same thing, though. And they didn't know as much then.
-
-
Replying to @alexandrosM
They did the same thing with regards to ivermectin. And knowledge has nothing to do with whether you believe results should replicate or not
2 replies 0 retweets 31 likes -
Replying to @GidMK
I am still not talking about the results. I am talking about whether it is an ethical study design to do what they did. I do not believe it is. Had they done more things, maybe it would have been, but they do not appear to have done so. As such, it looks, to me, negligent.
5 replies 0 retweets 19 likes -
Replying to @alexandrosM
That's just meaningless. Either you think that the results should replicate - i.e. ivermectin should have a benefit even if it is 3 days etc - or you don't. If you discard Together for this reason, but not Niaee, then your objection is nonsense
3 replies 1 retweet 50 likes -
Replying to @GidMK @alexandrosM
*Negligent* is a moral judgement, but unless you honestly believe that there is a reason that ivermectin in the same doses/timings would show a benefit in one trial but not another, the results stand and your weird objections can be ignored
1 reply 0 retweets 33 likes -
Replying to @GidMK
My objection *is* moral. I really have no idea what discussion you are participating in. I am participating in a discussion about the things I have said about the Together trial. And if other trials did this little for late-stage patients, the same criticism applies.
2 replies 0 retweets 22 likes -
Replying to @alexandrosM
Ah, ok then I understand. So moralizing aside, we're agreed that based on current best evidence there does not appear to be a mortality benefit for ivermectin for people with COVID-19
2 replies 0 retweets 39 likes -
Replying to @GidMK
So you do this thing where you try to put words in people's mouths. Don't do it, it's not nice at all and indicates bad faith. For clarity, I have agreed to no such thing. Now that you know you misunderstood my comments, I hope to hear from you an acknowledgement that you did.
1 reply 0 retweets 24 likes -
Replying to @alexandrosM
Sure - I thought you were talking about whether ivermectin works or not. I honestly don't care about morals, merely the evidence, so I assumed you were talking about that as well
1 reply 0 retweets 30 likes -
Pleasure. So then, morality aside, from an evidentiary perspective the Together trial is the most robust so far. Unless you have a scientific argument, I'm at a loss as to why you would not agree with the findings
-
Show additional replies, including those that may contain offensive content
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.