Although worth noting that with Elgazzar retracted the entire mortality benefit for ivermectin in RCTs comes from Niaee et al so if you don't like this dosing schedule you should explain why it's only a problem when the results are null
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Alexandros Marinos Retweeted Health Nerd
I'm asking you to back your argument. Feel free to invert the burden though.https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1431834454046035969?s=19 …
Alexandros Marinos added,
Health NerdVerified account @GidMKOh, and to be specific as to why this is nonsense - half of the positive trials for ivm used this or a very similar dosing schedule, but people never criticise those for not following FLCCC protocols only the trial with null results I wonder why
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Replying to @alexandrosM
Nah, you're just ignoring the substantive point to nit-pick because it's inconvenient
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Replying to @GidMK
Can you state your substantive point, ideally in ways I can validate?
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Replying to @alexandrosM
Sure. Many of the positive trials, such as Niaee, have similar dosing schedules as Together. Some of them gave lower doses. But the only trial you have raised this objection to is the one with null results
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Replying to @GidMK @alexandrosM
Any response here? Why is this dosing regimen an issue for Together but not studies that show positive results?
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Replying to @GidMK
I will look into that trial and let you know. (just woke up btw)
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Replying to @alexandrosM
Cool, me too. So, why is Niaee and/or the other positive studies where they gave lower or similar doses of ivermectin fine but Together is bad? Is it simply because of the null result?
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Replying to @GidMK
Is it simply the dose you're comparing? Not stage of disease, repetition, empty/full stomach, etc?
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Replying to @alexandrosM
Niaee gave between 1-3 doses, didn't specify empty/full, and gave to more advanced disease than Together. It's just this litany of non-issues that no one even tries to pick out for positive trials
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Actually, having had a quick look through the trial protocols, I can't find a single study that found benefits that adhered to all those points you've raised. Does that mean that you believe that there's no evidence for ivermectin working, or are they only issues in Together?
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