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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Rounding the Earth‏ @EduEngineer Aug 27
      Replying to @GidMK

      Hi, Health Nerd. I'm a statistican and textbook author. I computed the p-value and found the exact answer here. There is nothing about the statement I can see that is incorrect. A p-value is the result of the computation testing to see if a result could occur by random chance.

      3 replies 7 retweets 69 likes
    2. Kyle Sheldrick‏ @K_Sheldrick Aug 27
      Replying to @EduEngineer @GidMK

      Perhaps you're reading in a meaning the author meant to express but didn't. e.g. perhaps they meant to say "a hypothetical ineffective treatment would generate" rather than "an ineffective treatment generated"

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 27
      Replying to @K_Sheldrick @EduEngineer

      It's also worth noting that in the context of this meta-analytic model the p-value is entirely the result of the cherry-picking of "positive" values, so the chance of having a low p-value is 100% regardless of whether ivm works or not

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Rounding the Earth‏ @EduEngineer Aug 27
      Replying to @GidMK @K_Sheldrick

      No, there was no cherry-picking. There was an extremely forgiving set of inclusion-exclusion criteria that let in some positive and negative results, but left out almost nothing.

      2 replies 1 retweet 39 likes
    5. Rounding the Earth‏ @EduEngineer Aug 27
      Replying to @EduEngineer @GidMK @K_Sheldrick

      If you make such a claim, it's on you to identify the misplace study that was miscategorized according to the inclusion-exclusion criteria, because that's what cherry-picking means.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Kyle Sheldrick‏ @K_Sheldrick Aug 27
      Replying to @EduEngineer @GidMK

      OK, are we doing this? Let's do this. Let's go through the first set. The prophylaxis studies. Viral positivity is the least important outcome so presumably the five here should not report any symptom, hospitalisation or mortality outcomes, will there be an error in these 5?pic.twitter.com/0TxoZ7hS7H

      3 replies 5 retweets 19 likes
    7. Kyle Sheldrick‏ @K_Sheldrick Aug 27
      Replying to @K_Sheldrick @EduEngineer @GidMK

      I reckon we can review these 5 in 5 minutes, let's see.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Kyle Sheldrick‏ @K_Sheldrick Aug 27
      Replying to @K_Sheldrick @EduEngineer @GidMK

      The very first study is by Prof Babalola from Lagos. It reports change in cough and dyspnea, by the authors' claimed rules this should have been extracted instead. In both cases the control did better. This error favoured ivermectin.pic.twitter.com/nKiXWm77iO

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    9. Rounding the Earth‏ @EduEngineer Aug 27
      Replying to @K_Sheldrick @GidMK

      Okay, I think we disagree on what the criteria says.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Rounding the Earth‏ @EduEngineer Aug 27
      Replying to @EduEngineer @K_Sheldrick @GidMK

      I believe that what the author intends is that death > hospitalization > etc. It sounds like you want to throw symptom vs. symptom into that classification? If so, that's an argument for computing a p-value by a different definition of the criteria, not the the author...

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 27
      Replying to @EduEngineer @K_Sheldrick

      The author says "severity". Obviously, viral positivity is less severe by any clinical definition than symptoms

      11:49 PM - 27 Aug 2021
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        2. Kyle Sheldrick‏ @K_Sheldrick Aug 27
          Replying to @GidMK @EduEngineer

          They specifically say clinical outcome more important than PCR status.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 27
          Replying to @K_Sheldrick @EduEngineer

          You're right! So even by their own awful methodology, this is a terrible contradiction. Like I said, pseudoscience

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
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