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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15

      We've known for some time that COVID-19 is unlikely to be eradicated. This means that the end-goal for any zero-COVID nation should be extremely high rates of vaccination, not permanent eliminationhttps://gidmk.medium.com/the-end-of-the-covid-19-pandemic-b03ac751baa1 …

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    2. Pathfinder‏ @Pathfinder4545 Aug 15
      Replying to @GidMK @clairlemon

      If 95% of your population is vaccinated, and a vax resistant variant develops, you're back to Mar 2020, & your vulnerable population is reexposed along with everyone else. If you limit your vax to the vulnerable, your population will have a mix of infection acquired immunity 1/

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    3. Pathfinder‏ @Pathfinder4545 Aug 15
      Replying to @Pathfinder4545 @GidMK @clairlemon

      from different strains. Each of those immunities is broader & more robust than the very narrow vax immunity, and the mix of strains makes it broader still. Should a vax resistant variant arise, your general population will be less vulnerable, & will be a barrier to protect 2/

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    4. Pathfinder‏ @Pathfinder4545 Aug 15
      Replying to @Pathfinder4545 @GidMK @clairlemon

      your truly vulnerable. In addition, wide vax use produces selection pressure toward vax resistance, and also selects for increased virulence. That plus a 95% cohort with only vax immunity is not a winning combo. We are also in the position right now of forcing people who 3/

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15
      Replying to @Pathfinder4545 @clairlemon

      Might just note at this point that so far pretty much every point in this thread is incorrect. Vaccines are designed to produce BETTER immunity than natural infection, and they generally do. So vaccinating will actually help with all of this more than natural infections

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    6. Pathfinder‏ @Pathfinder4545 Aug 15
      Replying to @GidMK @clairlemon

      No, they don't. mRNA vaxes use a single protein to develop immunity. Natural infection builds immunity from the entire virus, providing much broader coverage against re-infection, esp from variants. mRNA vaxes have a stronger response, but it is much narrower. And the 1/

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 16
      Replying to @Pathfinder4545 @clairlemon

      In the phase 3 vaccine trials they included people with antibodies to covid for this specific reason, and demonstrated that even in people with a positive antibody test the vaccines provided additional protection

      12:40 AM - 16 Aug 2021
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        2. Pathfinder‏ @Pathfinder4545 Aug 16
          Replying to @GidMK @clairlemon

          That in no way addresses what I'm saying, let alone refutes it. In addition, you have left the "additional protection" unquantified in absolute terms. There is a reason for that, that would be germain if we were discussing that topic. You claim to be an epidemiologist, PhD 1/

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