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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15

      Health Nerd Retweeted Nicholas Loubere

      Your regular reminder that "Focused Protection" from the Great Barrington Declaration is, and always was, absolute nonsensehttps://twitter.com/NDLoubere/status/1426672027239337989 …

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      Nicholas Loubere @NDLoubere
      It's also worth reviewing how Kulldorff et al envision 'focused protection' for working class risk groups—they can just stay in a hotel until the pandemic is over... 🙃 This is Mitt Romney telling indebted college kids to borrow money from their parents levels of elite delusion. pic.twitter.com/TwEiQu3xsS
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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15

      One of the things that always annoyed me about the GBD was how intellectually dishonest the whole thing is/was. None of the "focused protection" measures were ever realistic for a long-term endemic disease

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15

      So it was essentially a given that any place pursuing the GBD's primary focus of having no restrictions on anything would eventually expose all citizens to COVID-19

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15

      But the language was always this vague "protect the elderly" nonsense while the actual measures advocated for would by definition cause the elderly to be infected 🤷‍♂️

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15

      "The elderly can all get their own hotel rooms while the pandemic sweeps through" makes sense if you're talking about a 2-week peak of infections, perhaps, but not when we're 18 months in and some places are on to their 3rd, 4th, and 5th waves

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15

      Also, a fascinating fact is that most advanced economies DID protect their elderly population to an enormous extent, at least post April-2020. In most richer locations with serological data, people over-70 have MUCH lower infection rates than under-70

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        1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 16

          Note - this is important because it happened BEFORE the GBD proposed it, which goes to show that even with "focused protection" places can have enormous death tolls from COVID-19

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        1. Michael Edwards.‏ @MichaelPaulEdw1 Aug 15
          Replying to @GidMK

          The issue was Never does helping protect vulnerable people decrease deaths it was always about GBD promoting that in lue of doing anything and "let it burn" through the rest of the population not to mention the never-ending fault in thinking we can identify the vulnerable.

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        2. mamma #ProtectTheKids BildungAberSicher.ch‏ @Happy_live_safe Aug 15
          Replying to @GidMK

          In Switzerland the incidence in 60-80 and 80+ was always the highest. The serologic results may be misleading as many die? And maybe fading antibodies?

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 15
          Replying to @Happy_live_safe

          The incidence based on PCR tests, which mostly target symptomatic people, may have been higher, but antibody studies show that in Switzerland elderly people had lower rates of infection i.e.https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31304-0/fulltext#seccestitle10 …

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        2. Na Sirf Musiqi‏ @nasirfmusiqi Aug 16
          Replying to @GidMK

          As we're seeing today, the "3-6 months to herd immunity" (now rebranded sustainable endemnicity?!) would have crashed any hospital system with 30s-50s anyway. Of course the idea that someone turns 65, retires and has no important connection to society, their grandchildren....

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        3. Na Sirf Musiqi‏ @nasirfmusiqi Aug 16
          Replying to @nasirfmusiqi @GidMK

          ...other adults they care for, etc etc is such a weird fiction yet influential on policy. Finally no solutions for the care sector, nursing homes and domiciliary care....any delivery reorganisation/testing regime totally swamped by uncontrolled transmission!

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        1. Alagai  🇺🇸‏ @Alagai Aug 16
          Replying to @GidMK

          It was always unserious window-dressing. No mention of the large plurality of US adults with chronic conditions. No mention of the majority of elders living alone or with family. No mention of the older Americans working jobs, with dependents. Just nursing-home-motels-shut-up.

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        1. Joe Roberts‏ @joereform Aug 16
          Replying to @GidMK

          That was the idea. The GBD never aimed to reduce infections, but rather the suffering and death that came from it, which is clearly, radically skewed toward the elderly. "FOCUSED protection" for the most likely to die.

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        1. IOIIOOIO‏ @ioiiooio Aug 16
          Replying to @GidMK

          So... I don't get this... much lower infection rates among elderly compared to countries like Sweden that didn't lockdown or...?

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        1. JoeGrobe‏ @GrobeJoe Aug 17
          Replying to @GidMK

          Was still insufficient and has cost the Swedish model dearly. In resting is that you always go back to the original (old) doc, not conceptually, but working yourself out on specific measures

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