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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 8
      Replying to @federicolois

      Uh, that's not AZ and it's also not a criticism of the trial at all. I'm very confused

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    2. Federico Andres Lois‏ @federicolois Aug 8
      Replying to @GidMK

      Those are 2 links. Twitter decided to put one there and not the other.

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 8
      Replying to @federicolois

      Oh right you're talking about that initial dosing error. Thing is, even if you ignore that data entirely, the efficacy remains sufficiently high to use in a clinical setting, so again your point does not make sense to me

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    4. Federico Andres Lois‏ @federicolois Aug 8
      Replying to @GidMK

      Tell me how those errors doesn't fuel distrust on novel platforms. They were rushed. That they worked, it was not because of the process. If this is the new standard for medical research, god help us.

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 8
      Replying to @federicolois

      Personally, I find it much more reassuring when people are transparent about their mistakes than when they simply won't admit anything went wrong, ever. That's why I am a bit skeptical of Sputnik, while not at all worried about AZ, Sinovac, Pfizer etc

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    6. Federico Andres Lois‏ @federicolois Aug 8
      Replying to @GidMK

      Transparency is a must. It is a sanity check, not a guarantee of anything. Process is important, and while it was a lucky mistake, shows also the lack of through study of dosing effects. Not a good sign at all.

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 8
      Replying to @federicolois

      And yet, these studies have been FAR more transparent than any previous pieces of research, scrutinized far more closely, and the mistakes identified and explained much more quickly. Like I said, some of the best trials ever conducted

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    8. Federico Andres Lois‏ @federicolois Aug 8
      Replying to @GidMK

      Again, that you are touting that this is the best you got reflect pretty poorly on the whole field/industry. Then you expect to say that people should trust the health industry/practitioners? You see why I said what I said? That there are worse things is not an excuse.

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 8
      Replying to @federicolois

      I'm saying your position doesn't make sense - if you trust the industry enough to get other vaccines, you should trust the COVID-19 studies MORE

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    10. Federico Andres Lois‏ @federicolois Aug 8
      Replying to @GidMK

      I cannot trust c19 RCTs, because they are full of problems. And to be true, this has also irreparably hurt my trust, from now on I will research far more than I used to. Trust is not gained, it is lost. Which was my point all along.

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 8
      Replying to @federicolois

      They definitely aren't "full" of problems - they had specific issues, and in general were quite transparent about those problems. Indeed, AZ was probably the worst at this and I still think they've demonstrated very well that the vaccine works and is safe

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        2. Federico Andres Lois‏ @federicolois Aug 8
          Replying to @GidMK

          That part only time will tell, because we won't be able to know from the now aborted trials. I just hope that is the case, because the alternative in this case would be quite bad.

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Aug 8
          Replying to @federicolois

          All I can say is that I've read the protocols for 3 of the vaccines (AZ, Pfizer, Moderna), as well as maybe a dozen pre-rollout and another dozen post-rollout studies, and I would say they are some of the best studies ever done and remarkable for their transparency

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