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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jul 27

      Something worth noting - no matter how you look at it, the research community has royally fucked up when it comes to ivermectin

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jul 27

      Yes, there are endless terrible trials, but we've had 18 months. WE COULD'VE RUN GOOD TRIALS We didn't. That is woeful, and frankly inadequate

      6 replies 8 retweets 137 likes
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    3. Dr Darren Saunders‏Verified account @whereisdaz Jul 27
      Replying to @GidMK

      Did the preliminary data warrant it though? Every massive trial has a cost, and an opportunity cost.

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jul 27
      Replying to @whereisdaz

      Perhaps not, but once it was clear that it was being used as a treatment for millions worldwide I cannot understand why people would not trial it properly

      8:16 PM - 27 Jul 2021
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        2.  ❤️ 💙Matthew Nurse ❤️ 💙‏ @matt_nurse Jul 27
          Replying to @GidMK @whereisdaz

          Yeah - there might be a case for testing things that are just publicly controversial, because using an ineffective treatment comes with an opportunity cost too.

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        3. Dr Darren Saunders‏Verified account @whereisdaz Jul 27
          Replying to @matt_nurse @GidMK

          Part of the problem though is that the most fervent evangelists (and their followers) won’t believe it unless it confirms their existing beleif. They’re already sowing the seeds, complaining that the Oxford trial is designed to fail.

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        2. Jan Merta‏ @lunruj Jul 28
          Replying to @GidMK @whereisdaz

          This raises a question: Should we test potential treatments that don't have a plausible mechanism, in vitro activity in reasonable concentrations and other properties or plausibity demonstrated in other way just because they get popular due to a misinformation campaign?

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        3. Jan Merta‏ @lunruj Jul 28
          Replying to @lunruj @GidMK @whereisdaz

          I would say in this case there are at least poor quality studies supposedly showing an effect plus the drug is cheap and quite safe so in this particular case it should have been tested (and perhaps it would have reduced the hype). But where should be the line?

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        2. steve thomson‏ @dialucrii31 Jul 28
          Replying to @GidMK @whereisdaz

          Are you able to read a graph? Everywhere that has been using ivermectin has reduced death rates and hospitalisations versus those that don't, from exactly the point they started administering the drug. This is basic common sense stuff. RCTs are not the only source of medical

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        3. steve thomson‏ @dialucrii31 Jul 28
          Replying to @dialucrii31 @GidMK @whereisdaz

          Knowledge and progress. They never have been. They are a ridiculous demand in a crisis situation like a pandemic where time is of the essence. If a drug is safe then its a free shot at treating someone in the absence of ANY OTHER WESTERN INSTITUTIONAL OUTPATIENT PROTOCOL!

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