For full disclosure here is the whole slide. I might disagree w/certain wording, but generally seems reasonable.pic.twitter.com/Tcq2ZnOlor
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For full disclosure here is the whole slide. I might disagree w/certain wording, but generally seems reasonable.pic.twitter.com/Tcq2ZnOlor
Why would you want to box in clinicians to not being able to give a second vaccine in all circumstances?
How is this true @bnallamo & @venkmurthy?pic.twitter.com/kNMPqI7pSZ
Yes much of that editorial confused me. There's no specific reference on the CDC slides, but presumably the "certain circumstances" that they are recommending are quite similar to the stance of the editorial itself
False statements abound! Slides are not official guidance statements. Guidance was linked in article and is silent on this issue. Those exact slides are also explicitly linked and we in fact reproduce that very same language from their slide. Please reread the article.
That confuses me even more - if guidance is silent on the issue aside from the slides, and the slides appear to agree with your position, then what's your article actually arguing?
We disagree with the slides too. Giving any vaccine to people with h/o myocarditis without discussion is not appropriate.
Most people with vax associated myocarditis shouldn't get redosed. Vague guidance emphasizing possibility or redosing rather than the rarity of circumstances where that makes sense is problematic.
It says to "Defer 2nd of dose dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine until more information is known". I don't know how this could be clearer.
And then it continues with a "However" which is a modification big enough to drive a truck through. If the however is not an escape potentially used today, why bother even saying anything until said information is known. Surely CDC and FDA will update guidance at that point?
Is it though? Do you think that people who follow the "Discuss with patient, guardian, and clinical team?" are likely to immediately get a vaccination, or mostly only in high-risk situations? Presumably here "clinical team" would always include a cardiologist
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