16/n Using reporting systems like this is a common anti-vaccine trope. We KNOW that many of the events in the reporting system ARE NOT LINKED TO VACCINATION because we investigate them carefully
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17/n Because of this, we have two awful, useless numbers being compared to each other. The true rate of deaths CAUSED by vaccines is 100sx lower than this paper calculates, and the number of deaths PREVENTED is 100sx higher
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18/n Taking the highest death rate seen caused by a vaccine so far - Astrazeneca - we'd get around 1 death per 500,000 vaccinations Using an NNTV assuming a 30% population prevalence, we'd get 1 life saved per ~500 vaccinations
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19/n Now, neither of these metrics are necessarily useful in this way, and people will yell at me for doing this (rightly, it's a bit silly), but EVEN USING THIS FLAWED RUBRIC vaccines save 1,000x more lives than they cost
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20/n Anyway, this study is flawed in so many basic ways that it's pretty irretrievable. It should be retracted as soon as possible to avoid further damage
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21/n Another note, H/T to
@ScottinVictoria - the reviewer comments are pretty astonishing to read. Not even a mention of why NNTV is worthless in this context, and no argument about the manifestly wrong use of adverse event reports https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/7/693/review_report …9 replies 8 retweets 177 likesShow this thread -
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22/n Also worth pointing out that two members of the editorial board of the journal have resigned so far because of this terrible studyhttps://twitter.com/ProfKatieEwer/status/1409125241142513670?s=20 …
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🕷️The wife scientific 🕷️ @ProfKatieEwerI have resigned from the Editorial Board of@Vaccines_MDPI following the publication of this article. It is grossly negligent and I can't believe it passed peer-review. I hope it will be retracted.@MDPIOpenAccess@ratripp#AcademicTwitter https://twitter.com/pjvanerp/status/1408707779620114432 …Show this thread4 replies 44 retweets 278 likesShow this thread -
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23/n also as a couple of people have pointed out, this tweet is incorrect. I mixed up the ARR of disease prevention with death, in actuality the ARR would approach the death rate in the population x 0.84 - in most places this would be about 1 per 100/200https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1409293104063029252?s=19 …
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Health NerdVerified account @GidMK10/n If you assume that everyone who stays alive will get infected without a vaccine eventually - which is a fact - the ABSOLUTE risk difference approaches the RELATIVE risk difference, and so NNTV = 1/0.84 = 1.2 I.e. 1 life saved for every 1.2 vaccines given!Show this thread8 replies 4 retweets 111 likesShow this thread -
24/n Oh, and because it always comes up in these discussions, I've never been paid a cent by any pharmaceutical company, all of my funding is through the Australian state and federal governments, the only additional income I get is from writing locked posts on Medium
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🇪🇸 Balkrai 🇪🇸 Retweeted Pieter Borger
You posted this because of this accusation, didn't you? instead of trying to debunk the thread he simply claim that you have a conflict of interest beacause Pharmaffia xdhttps://twitter.com/BorgerPieter/status/1409446609344139267?s=20 …
🇪🇸 Balkrai 🇪🇸 added,
Pieter Borger @BorgerPieterScience will decide, not the pseudoscience of pharmaffia, their politicians and "experts". Their data cannot be trusted, anyway. Pharmaffia has a very bad track record of scientific integrity, so I expect no honest science from them at all. Read: https://www.amazon.de/Deadly-Medicines-Organised-Crime-Healthcare-ebook/dp/B07WYC2244 … https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1409293078817427457 …Show this thread1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
Lol not really, I hadn't even seen that. People always get very silly about these things, as if the only reason for someone to disagree with them is that they're paid to do it
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