So, this is still ongoing, but I think there's an important lesson here in how wildly problematic academic debate is as a forum during a pandemichttps://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1396654447791525890 …
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The bottom line is pretty depressing - we've spent months arguing back and forth, meanwhile this paper has had a HUGE impact and probably impacted policy decisions across the world
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Thing is, our debate about this article has been FAST by academic standards Three letters/responses for a single article published in 6 months? Snappy by many standards
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And yet, it was still not even close to being quick enough to address any questions with the conclusions before the paper was used by real people to make real life-or-death decisions That's pretty frightening
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Academic debate was simply not designed to look at issues in the timeline of a pandemic. 6 months is a lifetime during COVID-19
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Forget this paper and this argument. There have been dozens of similar examples, some where the papers were eventually retracted They still took FAR too long
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I honestly don't have a good solution other than completely reimagining scientific publishing somehow, but it is still quite a sad thing to watch academic discussion fail so completely to inform in a timely manner
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The other issue is with attention. The initial published article has an Altmetric score of 19,000 (!). Our letter in response is 206, their response to that is 409, and our newest letter only 9
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This is also the landing page of the original article. No evidence here at all that there is the slightest debate about the study or its conclusionspic.twitter.com/S9EdEv5TsM
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Replying to @GidMK
you should send them this, published in... EJCI
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/eci.13190 …pic.twitter.com/MtgGdqFkU9
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It's actually a bit wild that they don't even link to our letter(s) at all on the page of the study. The only way to figure out that there's been some debate is to check the studies citing this one and then traipse through the citations
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I've linked things together on Pubpeer before because of that in hopes that people might check there. My favorite is when the author reply doesn't even cite the letter. Or the journal has a blog system for letters, so it won't get recognized as a citation.
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