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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol May 5
      Replying to @AtomsksSanakan @GidMK @abirballan

      There has however certainly been way more cases of covid-19 among children than 500 000. Probably around 30-40 times more?

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    2. Atomsk's Sanakan‏ @AtomsksSanakan May 6
      Replying to @JacobGudiol @GidMK @abirballan

      Atomsk's Sanakan Retweeted Atomsk's Sanakan

      Re: "Probably around 30-40 times more?" 1) Read the sentence right below the highlighted orange text in the tweet you're responding to. 2) COVID-19 killed hundreds of kids, even with more mitigation and better healthcare than before 1963.https://twitter.com/AtomsksSanakan/status/1390169113578942464 …

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      Atomsk's Sanakan @AtomsksSanakan
      Replying to @AtomsksSanakan @GidMK and 4 others
      But if @VPrasadMDMPH, @WesPegden, + @sdbaral want insinuate that it's now reasonable to think COVID-19 vaccinations could hospitalize tens of thousands (+ kill hundreds) of kids, then they're anti-vaxxers. https://twitter.com/JHowardBrainMD/status/1389946208987324417 … https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/index.html#demographics … http://web.archive.org/web/20210430192043/https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html … pic.twitter.com/UKDjNPN1dW
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    3. Atomsk's Sanakan‏ @AtomsksSanakan May 6
      Replying to @AtomsksSanakan @JacobGudiol and

      3) COVID-19 caused >190,000 hospitalizations for kids, even with better mitigation + medicine than before 1963. 4) None of what you said changes the fact that by @abirballan's 'logic', life-saving vaccines (ex: MMR) are unethical https://twitter.com/abirballan/status/1373689805867999235 … https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html …pic.twitter.com/Os0IHhghr0

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    4. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol May 6
      Replying to @AtomsksSanakan @GidMK @abirballan

      4. It might not. Your claim that the risk was the same is not true either though

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Atomsk's Sanakan‏ @AtomsksSanakan May 6
      Replying to @JacobGudiol @GidMK @abirballan

      Re: "Your claim that the risk was the same is not true" I never made the claim that the risk was the same. You're making the same mistake you did on the 'Sweden / herd immunity' point months ago: Attacking a straw man you made up. Feel free to address the actual point.

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    6. Atomsk's Sanakan‏ @AtomsksSanakan May 6
      Replying to @AtomsksSanakan @JacobGudiol and

      If you need the point spelled out for u, @JacobGudiol, here it is again: By @abirballan's absurd logic, life-saving vaccines (ex: MMR) are unethical, since the pathogens they target kill only hundreds of kids per year, which on par with, or less, than the number COVID-19 killed.

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    7. Atomsk's Sanakan‏ @AtomsksSanakan May 6
      Replying to @AtomsksSanakan @JacobGudiol and

      And since your comments strongly suggest you didn't closely look at what was being responded to, @JacobGudiol: @abirballan is saying it's unethical to even run clinical trials that give COVID-19 vaccines to kids. Have fun defending that nonsense. https://twitter.com/abirballan/status/1373689805867999235 …pic.twitter.com/ea1ISduzLk

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    8. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol May 6
      Replying to @AtomsksSanakan @GidMK @abirballan

      I responded to your comparison with the measles and that we decided to vaccinate children then. A comparison that is still way off when you look at the risk that you are avoiding with vaccinations

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK May 6
      Replying to @JacobGudiol @AtomsksSanakan @abirballan

      I mean, many countries vaccinate against varicella. Rubella. Mumps. All waaaay less fatal than COVID-19, but can cause long term health issues and the vaccines are safe

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    10. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol May 6
      Replying to @GidMK @AtomsksSanakan @abirballan

      They are safe yes, we know that now. Making the call to use more untested vaccines is not simple though.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK May 6
      Replying to @JacobGudiol @AtomsksSanakan @abirballan

      So presumably we should run studies on them at the absolute minimum, no?

      2:29 AM - 6 May 2021
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        1. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol May 6
          Replying to @GidMK @AtomsksSanakan @abirballan

          Of course. I would believe that the mRNA vaccines turn out to be just as safe in teenagers as have been proven to be in adults

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