The weirdest thing about the whole herd immunity through natural infection argument is that it's never happened ever for any disease long-term so it was always a wild idea for COVID-19
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Imagine if instead of "herd immunity" the message had been "recurring outbreaks with a slowly diminishing fatality rate until after months/years the number of yearly deaths would get low enough to not bother any more"
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Sorry, second tweet should read definitely NOT what's been bandied around
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"Prior to COVID-19 all these diseases had a metastable endemic pattern with regular yearly fluctuations!" Yes, exactly
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For example, imagine if the Great Barrington nonsense had said "yearly outbreaks with large epidemics until virtually the entire population has had COVID-19 at least once" instead of "herd immunity" Probably would've been a bit less popular
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Do you mean "that's definitely NOT what's been bandied about as herd immunity"? If not, I don't think I understand what you're saying here. Unless it's sarcasm that blew right over my head.
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People have been touting that scenario as "herd immunity" when that's absolutely NOT herd immunity.
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That *is* herd immunity. Read a book for God sake.
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Ah see your point. Yes of course, but not pandemic/epidemic you will never achieve zero risk. And, not even vaccinations have wiped them out completely. Indeed vaccination only methods often have not worked, but quarantining infected has hence Leicester method 1890s smallpox.
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So why when you know that vaccinations won't even wipe out disease, are you implying they, or what, permanent lockdown, WILL? The latter is likely to weaken immune systems across society to other infections to boot; partic with children.
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Are you saying that even if a population reaches the herd protection thresholds being calculated for Covid (70-80%), you could still see massive second waves like India is seeing?
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Yes. The "first wave" is synchronised, protection endures before people are again susceptible (at about the same time, hence a "wave"). Later waves less synchronised, eventually different bits of the population are being infected at different times, slow burn, no longer a wave.
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