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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Apr 24

      The weirdest thing about the whole herd immunity through natural infection argument is that it's never happened ever for any disease long-term so it was always a wild idea for COVID-19

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Apr 24

      Like, sure, pandemics died out - eventually most diseases became endemic and killed only a small number of people each year But that's definitely what's been bandied about as herd immunity

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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Apr 24

          Imagine if instead of "herd immunity" the message had been "recurring outbreaks with a slowly diminishing fatality rate until after months/years the number of yearly deaths would get low enough to not bother any more"

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Apr 24

          Sorry, second tweet should read definitely NOT what's been bandied around

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        4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Apr 24

          "Prior to COVID-19 all these diseases had a metastable endemic pattern with regular yearly fluctuations!" Yes, exactly

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        5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Apr 24

          For example, imagine if the Great Barrington nonsense had said "yearly outbreaks with large epidemics until virtually the entire population has had COVID-19 at least once" instead of "herd immunity" Probably would've been a bit less popular

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        2. Ryan Hisner‏ @LongDesertTrain Apr 24
          Replying to @GidMK

          Do you mean "that's definitely NOT what's been bandied about as herd immunity"? If not, I don't think I understand what you're saying here. Unless it's sarcasm that blew right over my head.

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        3. spmcdonnell‏ @spmcdonnell Apr 24
          Replying to @LongDesertTrain @GidMK

          People have been touting that scenario as "herd immunity" when that's absolutely NOT herd immunity.

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        1. Echidna‏ @monotreme93 Apr 24
          Replying to @GidMK

          That *is* herd immunity. Read a book for God sake.

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        2. Dave Dent NO to WEF agendas #NoVaccinePassports‏ @DMDent Apr 24
          Replying to @GidMK

          Ah see your point. Yes of course, but not pandemic/epidemic you will never achieve zero risk. And, not even vaccinations have wiped them out completely. Indeed vaccination only methods often have not worked, but quarantining infected has hence Leicester method 1890s smallpox.

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        3. Dave Dent NO to WEF agendas #NoVaccinePassports‏ @DMDent Apr 24
          Replying to @DMDent @GidMK

          So why when you know that vaccinations won't even wipe out disease, are you implying they, or what, permanent lockdown, WILL? The latter is likely to weaken immune systems across society to other infections to boot; partic with children.

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        2. PriyankaPulla‏Verified account @PriyankaPulla Apr 24
          Replying to @GidMK

          Are you saying that even if a population reaches the herd protection thresholds being calculated for Covid (70-80%), you could still see massive second waves like India is seeing?

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        3. Mukund Thattai‏ @thattai Apr 24
          Replying to @PriyankaPulla @GidMK

          Yes. The "first wave" is synchronised, protection endures before people are again susceptible (at about the same time, hence a "wave"). Later waves less synchronised, eventually different bits of the population are being infected at different times, slow burn, no longer a wave.

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