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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Mar 3
      Replying to @JacobGudiol

      And yet, no mention of this analysis made it into the paper until (from my understanding) an FOI request? I can think of a single sentence to add to the paper to explain this finding, but they didn't do it

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    2. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol Mar 3
      Replying to @GidMK

      Here is the deaths per year in the relevant age groups in Sweden between 2010-2020. Can be explored here https://www.statistikdatabasen.scb.se/pxweb/sv/ssd/START__BE__BE0101__BE0101I/DodaHandelseK/ … I don't see how presenting numbers and the explaining that it is likely noice helps anyone?pic.twitter.com/5morhzWvNQ

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    3. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol Mar 3
      Replying to @JacobGudiol @GidMK

      Data presenting cause of deaths in different age groups according to deaths certificates for the first 6 months was also published by SCB in November There were no deaths <20 years where covid-19 was the suspected cause

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Mar 3
      Replying to @JacobGudiol

      I'm confused here, because clearly the researchers knew it was an issue otherwise why investigate?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Mar 3
      Replying to @GidMK @JacobGudiol

      Let me put it this way - this was clearly something that the authors knew about, investigated, and considered to be an issue that potentially derailed the narrative. And yet, not addressed at all in the paper, except lumped in with other numbers. That is a bad look

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Mar 3
      Replying to @GidMK @JacobGudiol

      It is potentially entirely a fluke. It is also possible that excess mortality in this age group was influenced by limited hospital capacity, or that under-reporting of COVID in children was a problem. There is some uncertainty there

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Mar 3
      Replying to @GidMK @JacobGudiol

      It's also worrying that what the email itself describes is still basically p-hacking - only reporting the analyses that agree with your argument is literally the definition of p-hacking

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol Mar 3
      Replying to @GidMK

      Both the analysis agrees with the argument. We know that now. There is no real excess death among school kids in Sweden It is just that the other analysis required a lot more explaining in order for it not to be used in a misleading way, as it is now by science magazine etc

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Mar 3
      Replying to @JacobGudiol

      Not really - here's a sentence "There was a modest increase in excess mortality in children 6-17 during this period (avg. 31 to 51) however this was not considered to be related to COVID-19 as none of these deaths were due to the disease

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    10. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol Mar 3
      Replying to @GidMK

      Sure, I'm not saying that he couldn't have included it. But there is a very tight character limit in letters and you know as well as me that a lot of people would have jumped on that number even if told that they weren't related to covid-19

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Mar 3
      Replying to @JacobGudiol

      Like I said, I don't see how the character limit makes any difference. Everyone wants a paper in NEJM but there are plenty of other journals!

      1:28 PM - 3 Mar 2021
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        2. Jacob Gudiol‏Verified account @JacobGudiol Mar 3
          Replying to @GidMK

          I think that the "everyone wants a paper in NEJM" part could explain it 😀

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Mar 3
          Replying to @JacobGudiol

          Lol sure, and my guess is that NEJM might not have published the letter if they'd known about the excess deaths, but that's also kind of the point!

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