Nope, suicide hasn't gone up - this is a common and widely spread piece of misinfo.https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/status/1359185350858539008 …
Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him
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Michelle Cohen, MD Retweeted Tyler Black, MD
Nope, suicide hasn't gone up - this is a common and widely spread piece of misinfo.https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/status/1359185350858539008 …
Michelle Cohen, MD added,
So, are you saying whatever the cost of lockdowns (to kids, to families, to communities, to educator, to culture, to the economy) that does not matter as long as we save a C19 patient?
Nope, didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth.
Ok, fair enough: but how did you reach your conclusion about the NB of C19 patients? How did you balance the harms of lockdowns? What weight did you give the harms to kids? That's what I see missing from too many MDs.
Too complex for a tweet, but in short: I read the medical literature, I read expert opinions on public health, infectious disease, mental health and the economy when the data is outside my expertise (primary care), and I work to avoid fixed ideas on what is a developing science.
Keith Wilson, Q.C. Retweeted Johan Hellström 🇸🇪
What if this article about harms to kids is true? Willful blindness (or saying, 'I need to wait for the studies') is not a defence for MDs who are to 1st do no harm.https://twitter.com/jhnhellstrom/status/1359577137582383107?s=20 …
Keith Wilson, Q.C. added,
I would need to dig into it further before drawing conclusions. As a family physician and parent I can tell you that mood-related stomach aches in kids are SUPER common. So it would be important to know if this data represented a change and how significant it was.
Appears to be publication by press release. Finally dug out the press release and it's in German
https://www.uke.de/kliniken-institute/kliniken/kinder-und-jugendpsychiatrie-psychotherapie-und-psychosomatik/forschung/arbeitsgruppen/child-public-health/forschung/copsy-studie_en.html …
Ok, had a bit of a dig into the study. The 1 in 3 number is at best a bit misleading. They compared their online-recruited pandemic sample to a totally different survey run prior to the pandemic and found that there had been a sustained "increase" in certain issues
Oof, that's problematic. Thanks for looking into it!
Yeh it's not a great way to monitor changes. More encouragingly, in their longitudinal sample only using the same group ~during~ the pandemic it doesn't look like there's been much deterioration in HRQoL, mental health etc
Well, I guess that's the difference between dropping a article based on a press release into a thread as though it proves a point, and carefully digging into the primary research and evaluating the strength of its conclusions.
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