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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Michelle Cohen, MD‏Verified account @DocMCohen Feb 10
      Replying to @ikwilson @DavidStaplesYEG and

      Are you suggesting the humantarian crisis in our LTC facilities is an equivalent harm to kids doing virtual school? This suggests to me that you have already decided where "the lives of C19 patients" should rank.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Keith Wilson, Q.C.‏ @ikwilson Feb 10
      Replying to @DocMCohen @DavidStaplesYEG and

      No. Increased suicides of all ages. Increased deaths due to delayed treatments for cancer & fear of attending at ER. Deceased life expectancy due to addictions etc. Social, cultural, economic harms from unbalanced lockdown policies placing lives of C19 ahead of everything else.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Michelle Cohen, MD‏Verified account @DocMCohen Feb 10
      Replying to @ikwilson @DavidStaplesYEG and

      Michelle Cohen, MD Retweeted Tyler Black, MD

      Nope, suicide hasn't gone up - this is a common and widely spread piece of misinfo.https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/status/1359185350858539008 …

      Michelle Cohen, MD added,

      Tyler Black, MD @tylerblack32
      1/ Suicidology Data (Canadian Update) 2020 vs other years A new Statistics Canada dataset is now available, and it is Canada-wide. There is unreliable LARGE lag in the past 4 months, shaded. Other months likely will minimally rise, but a clear trend of decrease is seen. pic.twitter.com/jq2HEt8PTn
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    4. Keith Wilson, Q.C.‏ @ikwilson Feb 10
      Replying to @DocMCohen @DavidStaplesYEG and

      So, are you saying whatever the cost of lockdowns (to kids, to families, to communities, to educator, to culture, to the economy) that does not matter as long as we save a C19 patient?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Michelle Cohen, MD‏Verified account @DocMCohen Feb 10
      Replying to @ikwilson @DavidStaplesYEG and

      Nope, didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Keith Wilson, Q.C.‏ @ikwilson Feb 10
      Replying to @DocMCohen @DavidStaplesYEG and

      Ok, fair enough: but how did you reach your conclusion about the NB of C19 patients? How did you balance the harms of lockdowns? What weight did you give the harms to kids? That's what I see missing from too many MDs.

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    7. Michelle Cohen, MD‏Verified account @DocMCohen Feb 10
      Replying to @ikwilson @DavidStaplesYEG and

      Too complex for a tweet, but in short: I read the medical literature, I read expert opinions on public health, infectious disease, mental health and the economy when the data is outside my expertise (primary care), and I work to avoid fixed ideas on what is a developing science.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Keith Wilson, Q.C.‏ @ikwilson Feb 10
      Replying to @DocMCohen @DavidStaplesYEG and

      Keith Wilson, Q.C. Retweeted Johan Hellström  🇸🇪

      What if this article about harms to kids is true? Willful blindness (or saying, 'I need to wait for the studies') is not a defence for MDs who are to 1st do no harm.https://twitter.com/jhnhellstrom/status/1359577137582383107?s=20 …

      Keith Wilson, Q.C. added,

      Johan Hellström  🇸🇪 @jhnhellstrom
      Say whaaat... One in three German children are suffering from pandemic-related anxiety, depression or are exhibiting psychosomatic symptoms like headaches or stomach aches. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/german-children-suffer-from-psychological-issues-in-pandemic-children-children-researchers-families-children-b1800396.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1612980377 …
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    9. Michelle Cohen, MD‏Verified account @DocMCohen Feb 10
      Replying to @ikwilson @DavidStaplesYEG and

      I would need to dig into it further before drawing conclusions. As a family physician and parent I can tell you that mood-related stomach aches in kids are SUPER common. So it would be important to know if this data represented a change and how significant it was.

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    10. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Feb 10
      Replying to @DocMCohen @ikwilson and

      Appears to be publication by press release. Finally dug out the press release and it's in German 🙄 https://www.uke.de/kliniken-institute/kliniken/kinder-und-jugendpsychiatrie-psychotherapie-und-psychosomatik/forschung/arbeitsgruppen/child-public-health/forschung/copsy-studie_en.html …

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Feb 10
      Replying to @GidMK @DocMCohen and

      Ok, had a bit of a dig into the study. The 1 in 3 number is at best a bit misleading. They compared their online-recruited pandemic sample to a totally different survey run prior to the pandemic and found that there had been a sustained "increase" in certain issues

      12:55 PM - 10 Feb 2021
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        2. Michelle Cohen, MD‏Verified account @DocMCohen Feb 10
          Replying to @GidMK @ikwilson and

          Oof, that's problematic. Thanks for looking into it!

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Feb 10
          Replying to @DocMCohen @ikwilson and

          Yeh it's not a great way to monitor changes. More encouragingly, in their longitudinal sample only using the same group ~during~ the pandemic it doesn't look like there's been much deterioration in HRQoL, mental health etc

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Feb 10
          Replying to @GidMK @DocMCohen and

          So, for example, the pre-pandemic study found 10% of the sample had mental health problems, and then 18% in the pandemic sample. But the two samples have clear socioeconomic differences even at a casual glance, they are clearly not directly comparable

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Feb 10
          Replying to @GidMK @DocMCohen and

          As to the psychosomatic problems, I think that's literally ~any~ reported stomach ache, headache etc in the last week, which imo makes it a bit unsurprising that the number is so high

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