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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      After we persisted, publishing a lengthy critique of the paper https://osf.io/9yqxw/  and getting a bit of press, we were invited again to submit a 600-word comment and told the authors would have to respond

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      And so we did. Referencing our longer critique, we fit a few of the most egregious errors into 600 words and clicked "submit" on the 7th of December Then we waited. And waited

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      It was a bit surprising for us that we had to wait at all. The @JAMANetworkOpen website proudly proclaims that comments will be put up after 2 days maximum, but a month after submission...still nothing

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      Finally, on the 8th of January, we checked back to see that both our comment and a response from the authors had been posted Our comment was strictly limited to 600 words (inc. references) The authors' response? Nearly 1,500pic.twitter.com/Rv32UoXhlQ

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      And guess what? We were right There was a clear mathematical error that completely reversed the results of the paper So the authors rewrote the whole thing to try and salvage something from the ruinspic.twitter.com/Bc9lZ1A5f3

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    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      Now, instead of showing that school closures kill more people than COVID-19, the paper shows that school closures either kill nobody at all or countless millions depending on whether your kids are in the US or EU I kid you notpic.twitter.com/mKC68SLiYc

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      For some context, the new figure of YLL that is caused by school closures if you cherry-pick just the results the authors would like to use means that 3 months of closed schools has cost more YLLs than influenza in the U.S. Since ~2015

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    8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

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      I'm not going to go into just how awful the study is again, except to note that if you want your mind to boggle have a look at the threads belowhttps://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1348441370180997123?s=20 …

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      Some movement to announce here: JAMA Open have now corrected this paper 2 months after it was published Unfortunately, it has gone from an error-filled useless analysis to a slightly less error-filled useless analysis Some more peer-review on twitter 1/n https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1327872367893176320 …
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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      But the real story here, to my mind, is that when junior colleagues CORRECTLY pointed out errors in a paper, they were ignored and belittled by editors and authors alike For months

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    10. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      Meanwhile, the paper has been cited a dozen times academically, is in planning and policy documents across the world, despite the fact that all of this happened when the work was quite simply wrong

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      Now, it's very hard to guess at the impact of such a paper, positive or negative But it is entirely possible that this study has literally killed people through the errors of the authors Who have called us "trolls" for pointing out the mistakes

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        1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          I should also note that Ilya and I get literally nothing for all of this. We have spent something like 50 hours each carefully identifying errors, writing letters, editing them down etc for no pay, mostly after work and on weekends

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        2. Dr. Vincent Raoult‏ @sawsharkman Jan 31
          Replying to @GidMK

          We're in exactly the same boat for a (much less serious but still impactful) shark study. Paper received wide attention with false results, we submitted a comment but have yet to hear anything. Meanwhile it's already been cited and in the public domain...

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31
          Replying to @sawsharkman

          It's a massive headache I think. The only reason there was any movement at all on this study was that we got some press because it is being used to guide COVID-19 policy

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        1. mamma #ProtectTheKids BildungAberSicher.ch‏ @Happy_live_safe Feb 1
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          We have a similar paper published in Switzerland, also on school where the authors simply omitted the school holidays. At least the people behind fact checking took less time bc the flaws were so pathetically obviouspic.twitter.com/JmVo0duLlK

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        1. Milesius‏ @Milesius9 Feb 2
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          That is speculative (and histrionic). What is not speculative is the negative effect of closing schools and other lockdown measures.

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        1. Трансцедентный техножрец‏ @Deathrock_Herko Feb 3
          Replying to @GidMK

          That's why you should be careful when you take info from paper's press-release only I've seen refs to this paper in news and net disputes as well, so thanks to @GidMK for fixing it

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