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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      Health Nerd Retweeted Anya Kamenetz

      The story continues - after @ikashnitsky and I pointed out that this paper was mathematically impossible, and had numerous errors, it was partially corrected Now, the lead author is calling us "trolls"https://twitter.com/anya1anya/status/1355865046392430595 …

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      Anya KamenetzVerified account @anya1anya
      A scientific paper I reported on was corrected, but the critics are not satisfied @ikashnitsky https://www.npr.org/2021/01/31/962090342/did-closing-schools-save-lives-or-cost-lives-the-debate-continues?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social …
      29 replies 370 retweets 1,079 likes
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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      His initial response to us, when we privately emailed him about the issue in the paper, was, to quote, "you are not just right because you THINK you are" (caps=italics)

      5 replies 10 retweets 191 likes
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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      Now, remember, this is not a minor paper Altmetric of 3,400, in dozens of news articles, and it's been cited by the WHO and EU already This paper is impacting school reopening policy across the globepic.twitter.com/gKTbYLXk4h

      2 replies 34 retweets 222 likes
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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

      Now, it's important to note that, as far as the @JAMANetworkOpen editors and the author was concerned, that was that. We were told to submit a 600-word comment online and if the authors wanted to, they could respondpic.twitter.com/VzRZAaQ8Yr

      7:40 PM - 31 Jan 2021
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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          After we persisted, publishing a lengthy critique of the paper https://osf.io/9yqxw/  and getting a bit of press, we were invited again to submit a 600-word comment and told the authors would have to respond

          2 replies 21 retweets 181 likes
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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          And so we did. Referencing our longer critique, we fit a few of the most egregious errors into 600 words and clicked "submit" on the 7th of December Then we waited. And waited

          2 replies 14 retweets 171 likes
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        4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          It was a bit surprising for us that we had to wait at all. The @JAMANetworkOpen website proudly proclaims that comments will be put up after 2 days maximum, but a month after submission...still nothing

          1 reply 17 retweets 188 likes
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        5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          Finally, on the 8th of January, we checked back to see that both our comment and a response from the authors had been posted Our comment was strictly limited to 600 words (inc. references) The authors' response? Nearly 1,500pic.twitter.com/Rv32UoXhlQ

          2 replies 19 retweets 187 likes
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        6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          And guess what? We were right There was a clear mathematical error that completely reversed the results of the paper So the authors rewrote the whole thing to try and salvage something from the ruinspic.twitter.com/Bc9lZ1A5f3

          1 reply 56 retweets 290 likes
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        7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          Now, instead of showing that school closures kill more people than COVID-19, the paper shows that school closures either kill nobody at all or countless millions depending on whether your kids are in the US or EU I kid you notpic.twitter.com/mKC68SLiYc

          4 replies 136 retweets 440 likes
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        8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          For some context, the new figure of YLL that is caused by school closures if you cherry-pick just the results the authors would like to use means that 3 months of closed schools has cost more YLLs than influenza in the U.S. Since ~2015

          1 reply 15 retweets 165 likes
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        9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          Health Nerd Retweeted Health Nerd

          I'm not going to go into just how awful the study is again, except to note that if you want your mind to boggle have a look at the threads belowhttps://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1348441370180997123?s=20 …

          Health Nerd added,

          Health NerdVerified account @GidMK
          Some movement to announce here: JAMA Open have now corrected this paper 2 months after it was published Unfortunately, it has gone from an error-filled useless analysis to a slightly less error-filled useless analysis Some more peer-review on twitter 1/n https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1327872367893176320 …
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        10. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          But the real story here, to my mind, is that when junior colleagues CORRECTLY pointed out errors in a paper, they were ignored and belittled by editors and authors alike For months

          3 replies 58 retweets 479 likes
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        11. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          Meanwhile, the paper has been cited a dozen times academically, is in planning and policy documents across the world, despite the fact that all of this happened when the work was quite simply wrong

          3 replies 51 retweets 336 likes
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        12. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          Now, it's very hard to guess at the impact of such a paper, positive or negative But it is entirely possible that this study has literally killed people through the errors of the authors Who have called us "trolls" for pointing out the mistakes

          6 replies 69 retweets 423 likes
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        13. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK Jan 31

          I should also note that Ilya and I get literally nothing for all of this. We have spent something like 50 hours each carefully identifying errors, writing letters, editing them down etc for no pay, mostly after work and on weekends

          27 replies 26 retweets 523 likes
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