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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

Sydney, New South Wales
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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 13 Dec 2020

      Health Nerd Retweeted Martin Kulldorff

      So, I have had a proper read of this document, and I thought it might be worthwhile to actually go through and carefully analyze the document Let's do some peer-review on twitter 1/nhttps://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1337379606739841036 …

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      Martin Kulldorff @MartinKulldorff
      Focused Protection: The Middle Ground between Lockdowns and "Let-it-rip". An essay by Jay Bhattacharya (@Stanford), @SunetraGupta (@UniofOxford) and @MartinKulldorff (@Harvard). https://gbdeclaration.org/focused-protection/ …
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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 13 Dec 2020

      2/n The document is a brief essay by the three authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, which I've screenshotted here for later reference, because it comes up in the essay:pic.twitter.com/7HnkVPdl4i

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 13 Dec 2020

      3/n The essay discusses what the authors call "focused protection", so I think it's worth noting at the outset that the GBD explicitly argues against closures/restrictions of any kind, so that we can build up herd immunitypic.twitter.com/85pTAb1qmV

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 13 Dec 2020

      4/n The essay itself is a bit problematic from the start. The authors poison the well with this straw man - it is simply not true that anyone anywhere is advocating for indefinite lockdownspic.twitter.com/AbCwN8Ir9X

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    5. Geert Bierman‏ @GeertBierman 13 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      And it's simply not true that the cited part suggests anyone does. So where's the strawman apart from your own tweet?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 13 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GeertBierman

      "Is there a middle ground between lockdowns" implies that the lockdowns will continue indefinitely based on the sentences before

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Geert Bierman‏ @GeertBierman 13 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      No it does not. It implies that there is a middle ground between a lockdown and doing nothing. Which is true. You may not prefer this middle ground, but that's another matter.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 13 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GeertBierman

      I live in Sydney. We have been almost fully open since June. I am perfectly well aware that there is a middle ground, but that is not what the GBD authors are proposing at all unfortunately

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Geert Bierman‏ @GeertBierman 13 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      That may or may not be true, but when you accuse people of strawman arguments, don't use them yourself. It weakens your point. What they say in the cited text is only that there is a middle ground between hard lockdowns and laissez-faire.

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 13 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GeertBierman

      I think the context of the piece, and even those two paragraphs, as well as their many public statements are enough to fairly call this a straw man 👍

      11:39 PM - 13 Dec 2020
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        2. Geert Bierman‏ @GeertBierman 13 Dec 2020
          Replying to @GidMK

          Fine, I think your own opinion about the writers is shinning through too much to be able to objectively counter the article you want to argue. You are putting words in the mouths of the writer and that should not be necessary if they are wrong (which they very well might be)

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 13 Dec 2020
          Replying to @GeertBierman

          I mean, the argument in the document is that the pandemic will continue until such a time as we reach herd immunity, and the direct implication is that our intervention must last until this point. It is not at all a stretch, simply the implicit meaning of the statement

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