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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 9 Dec 2020

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      You have to wonder at what point all of the people who said we'd be facing a massive wave of suicides by now will admit they were wrong My guess: never. It wasn't about the facts anywayhttps://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1336493616097681412 …

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      Lockdowns have mostly not been associated with a large increase in suicide rates: a thread of evidence (CW: suicide, mental health) 🧵
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    2. Greg Macdougall‏ @GregEqEd 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @a_picazo

      Here is easily-found counterpoint to the selective data you use. But the main problem is a lot of comprehensive data isn't available that quick. However, if you have an analysis of the largest contributing factors to suicide, you could look at whether they're affected by covid.pic.twitter.com/gSlvwbRcfJ

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GregEqEd @a_picazo

      Without monthly data it's very hard to make heads or tails of that information. For example, the article says that suicides in one place tripled...from 2 to 6 in one month. Do you have the actual data from any of these places?

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    4. Greg Macdougall‏ @GregEqEd 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @a_picazo

      I don't have the data for those places aside from the article, but Cook County is over 5million residents and Fresno over 1/2 million. If there is current data available, it would be a place to see if those rates of increase (13% and 70% resp) have continued. + here is Bay areapic.twitter.com/6EtKojAvOB

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    5. Greg Macdougall‏ @GregEqEd 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GregEqEd @GidMK @a_picazo

      as I mentioned originally, a lot of the comprehensive data isn't available for a while... plus we're still pre-peak 2nd wave I think so to definitively declare what you did, and seemingly ignoring any counter evidence, does seem both premature and irresponsible

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    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GregEqEd @a_picazo

      Including published data from a large number of places, there is thus far no indication of a large increase in suicide numbers. There is a single news story from August that you have found that cites unreferenced numbers, but it's very hard to know what to make of that

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @GregEqEd @a_picazo

      For example, these figures seem to be mostly for the entirety of 2020. How much of that time was spent under lockdown in these places? What were the suicide rates like in those months? What was the trend before, and what does it look like now?

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    8. Greg Macdougall‏ @GregEqEd 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @a_picazo

      I think you're twisting things a bit. Cook County up 13% seems to be for the first half of 2020. Fresno up 70% is specifically June 2020 vs June 2019. I'm not specifically focused on lockdowns, because many other pandemic factors are factors known to be related to suicide.

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GregEqEd @a_picazo

      But my tweets were very specifically about lockdowns

      9:57 PM - 9 Dec 2020
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        2. Greg Macdougall‏ @GregEqEd 9 Dec 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @a_picazo

          The tweet of yours I replied to was: "You have to wonder at what point all of the people who said we'd be facing a massive wave of suicides by now will admit they were wrong My guess: never. It wasn't about the facts anyway"

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        3. Greg Macdougall‏ @GregEqEd 9 Dec 2020
          Replying to @GregEqEd @GidMK @a_picazo

          so I figured to just put a few facts your way and see what you said

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