I love how anecdotes don't count when we're talking about teen suicides, but Covid anecdotes drive policy.
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Here is some of the evidence on suicide rates during lockdownshttps://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1336493616097681412?s=19 …
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I'll be honest, I'm not interested in a rational discussion here. I'm familiar with the numbers, I just don't care. I am absolutely apoplectic that adults would try to construct an argument *for* the pandemic response being not that harmful to children, in the aggregate.
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Because in the aggregate, we're sacrificing childrens' life-years in myriad ways, to protect 80-year-olds. Yes, I said it, I value the quality of childrens' lives over the lives of the old. Does that make me heartless? Maybe so.
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I'm not trying to convince you of anything, merely pointing out that what you said was incorrect wrt suicides. As I said in that thread, the fact that suicide rates have not increased does not mean that there have been no impacts
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I did not say that teen suicides are higher. I said that teens are committing suicide *due to* lockdown effects. And I will point out that suicide rate data doesn't include suicidal ideation, which according to pediatricians is higher, although I haven't seen data on it.
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If that is the case - and it is a complex question - then it is also the case that teens are avoiding suicide *due to* lockdowns
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So here's a theory for you - maybe teens aren't avoiding suicide so much as unable to follow through because they're stuck at home. And maybe once they've gotten their lives back teen suicide will spike. I mean, as long as we're speculating.
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Studies of post-lockdown periods have thus far not seen such an effect but anything is possible
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Lockdowns have never gone on this long.
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The lockdown in Victoria lasted >6 months and saw no such impact. It's in the thread
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