Publicly available CDC data doesn't break out by discrete causes (just natural cause vs all cause). Could there be fewer accidents and more suicides/overdoses? Definitely possible. In aggregate though, there doesn't appear to be a significant increase.
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Last time I looked was NVSS data as of 11/18. There were nearly 400,000 excess all causes deaths at that point vs the median of 2015-2019. Excess external cause deaths was less than 2% of that total, for all age groups.
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I haven't looked at the data recently because, frankly, it's depressing. Schools should be open. Hundreds of thousands of Americans should still be alive. We were the best prepared nation in the world for a pandemic, and the federal government utterly failed us.
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I pulled the data for all causes deaths by age from the link below and aggregated it by month for ages 0-14 (the next age bin was 15-24). The count of deaths for 2020 is an undercount due to reporting lag (especially recent months), but... https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Monthly-provisional-counts-of-deaths-by-age-group-/ezfr-g6hf …pic.twitter.com/58MKxT1goR
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I love how anecdotes don't count when we're talking about teen suicides, but Covid anecdotes drive policy.
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Here is some of the evidence on suicide rates during lockdownshttps://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1336493616097681412?s=19 …
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I'll be honest, I'm not interested in a rational discussion here. I'm familiar with the numbers, I just don't care. I am absolutely apoplectic that adults would try to construct an argument *for* the pandemic response being not that harmful to children, in the aggregate.
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Because in the aggregate, we're sacrificing childrens' life-years in myriad ways, to protect 80-year-olds. Yes, I said it, I value the quality of childrens' lives over the lives of the old. Does that make me heartless? Maybe so.
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I'm not trying to convince you of anything, merely pointing out that what you said was incorrect wrt suicides. As I said in that thread, the fact that suicide rates have not increased does not mean that there have been no impacts
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I did not say that teen suicides are higher. I said that teens are committing suicide *due to* lockdown effects. And I will point out that suicide rate data doesn't include suicidal ideation, which according to pediatricians is higher, although I haven't seen data on it.
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If that is the case - and it is a complex question - then it is also the case that teens are avoiding suicide *due to* lockdowns
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