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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

Sydney, New South Wales
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    1. Kevin McKernan  🙂‏ @Kevin_McKernan 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @0bj3ctivity @federicolois and

      You don't like Captain obvious? You stated C19 has risks. Thats a worthless comment with no context. You cant expect to get rational responses to irrational comments. The ? is what risks do we take to derisk a 99.9% survival virus? For kids the number is lower. So Torture kids?

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    2. Tom Andrews 💙‏ @0bj3ctivity 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @Kevin_McKernan @federicolois and

      Let's break that down. I gave context by detailing some of those risks The survival rate of COVID isn't 99.9% that's just wrong You should also consider the risks of this becoming endemic. There are many vulnerable groups, and we all get older, and move into higher risk groups

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    3. Kevin McKernan  🙂‏ @Kevin_McKernan 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @0bj3ctivity @federicolois and

      It's already endemic. So is flu and all previous corona viruses. You are wrong about the IFRs but please tell us at what IFR you stop campaigning for mask torturing our children? Whats you line in IFR sand?

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    4. Tom Andrews 💙‏ @0bj3ctivity 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @Kevin_McKernan @federicolois and

      It's not yet endemic globally, plenty of countries with effective Governments have been able to control spread, eg Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia. Why wouldn't you aspire for America to be one of the best in public health and protect its citizens, rather than one of the worst?

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    5. Tom Andrews 💙‏ @0bj3ctivity 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @0bj3ctivity @Kevin_McKernan and

      As regards IFR, it's more meaningful to use age stratified IFR https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v7 … But it's important to recognise there are significant morbidity risks from long COVID, reinfection, immune damage, and increased risks of other infections, cancers and autoimmune disease

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    6. Kevin McKernan  🙂‏ @Kevin_McKernan 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @0bj3ctivity @federicolois and

      Please google long term health consequences for flu so you can calibrate your 1-dimensional fear porn.

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    7. Tom Andrews 💙‏ @0bj3ctivity 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @Kevin_McKernan @federicolois and

      Tom Andrews 💙 Retweeted Health Nerd

      Oh I'm fully aware, seasonal flu is a risk too, but nowhere near as significant as SARS-COV-2 this year Fortunately protection measures vs SARS-COV-2 (such as social distancing & masks) are proving most beneficial in reducing flu prevalence toohttps://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1306726340226215936?s=19 …

      Tom Andrews 💙 added,

      Health NerdVerified account @GidMK
      The CDC estimates that the SYMPTOMATIC CASE-FATALITY RATE (CFR) for influenza is ~0.1% The estimate of the INFECTION-FATALITY RATE (IFR) is closer to ~0.05%, due to asymptomatic flu cases pic.twitter.com/YK4M8qH19M
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    8. Kevin McKernan  🙂‏ @Kevin_McKernan 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @0bj3ctivity @federicolois and

      Please itemize how he is counting flu and get back to us. When you figure this out, the next thing you need to reconcile with the non-peer reviewed tweet above is that flu has disappeared and C19 is spiking in the US. Mask do that magic too?

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @Kevin_McKernan @federicolois and

      If you're interested in how I'm counting things, you are welcome to read the thread and check the references. The IFR of influenza varies by year, but is around 0.05%. IFR for COVID-19 varies depending on the age-groups infected, but is at least 5-10x that in most populations

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    10. Kevin McKernan  🙂‏ @Kevin_McKernan 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @federicolois and

      0.1% Flu IFR- Fauci et al. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejme2002387 … 0.23% C19 IFR- Ioannidis https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf … CDC disclaimer: influenza counts are modeled due to low frequency testing. Do you agree C19 has a lower IFR for children than influenza?

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 16 Nov 2020
      Replying to @Kevin_McKernan @federicolois and

      Lol you haven't read that paper have you? That's the CASE fatality rate of influenza, or CFR. Given that there are many asymptomatic flu cases, the IFR is substantially lower

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        1. Tom Andrews 💙‏ @0bj3ctivity 16 Nov 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @Kevin_McKernan and

          Bear with him Gideon, he seems to have no relevant experience, and be somewhat hard of thinking 😉

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        1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 16 Nov 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @Kevin_McKernan and

          And no, I don't think we have enough data to be certain that the IFR of influenza is higher than COVID in children. Under age 20, they appear to be quite similar, above age 30 COVID is far more fatal, but other than that it is hard to say

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        2. Kevin McKernan  🙂‏ @Kevin_McKernan 16 Nov 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @federicolois and

          Asymptomatic for flu only moves the needle 2 fold and precision on the number is weak compared to C19 due to lack of testing. Unless you have testing data that says otherwise? But you won’t answer the relevant question. What is more dangerous for kids? Flu of C19?

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        3. Tom Andrews 💙‏ @0bj3ctivity 16 Nov 2020
          Replying to @Kevin_McKernan @GidMK and

          He already did

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