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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Nov 2020

      One thing I'm finding increasingly interesting is how many people will argue that lockdowns kill without citing any evidence at all that this is the case

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    2. Andrew Wilson‏ @moledroid 14 Nov 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      examples this on bbc news today re heart problems https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54935043 … and this in the lancet re cancer https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30388-0/fulltext …

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Nov 2020
      Replying to @moledroid

      And how many of those were attributable to lockdown vs the epidemic itself?

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        2. Aron Roberts‏ @aronro 14 Nov 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @moledroid

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          Good examples, @moledroid, and follow-up question @GidMK! A few speculations on my part, for which I've seen some evidence, but thinking it can be difficult to tease out diffs v. baselines?https://twitter.com/aronro/status/1259911134041108482 …

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          Replying to @khaylock @nycsouthpaw
          Lots of mixed currents. A few possibilities among many: More home deaths from COVID-19. Also from untreated illness, avoided but necessary ER visits, domestic violence, suicides? Fewer from surgery/drug errors, outside-home crime, car & work accidents, other infectious disease?
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        3. Aron Roberts‏ @aronro 14 Nov 2020
          Replying to @aronro @GidMK

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        2. Andrew Wilson‏ @moledroid 14 Nov 2020
          Replying to @GidMK

          I don't know, it depends how you define those headings, especially given that the epidemic caused the lockdowns. I expect that more research is needed to answer your question. But I'd be surprised if there were no deaths due to lockdown. Lockdown causes other problems too.

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        3. Katy McConkey‏ @KatyMcconkey 14 Nov 2020
          Replying to @moledroid @GidMK

          I tried to admit a couple of people with chest pain in April. They wouldn't go to A&E because they knew there was a lot of COVID at the hospital. They preferred to take their chances at home. I don't believe it was lockdown per se that put people off attending A&E, more the virus

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        2. IrmaGherd (Retired Nurse Thug) ✳ 💉 💉‏ @maureenchuck1 14 Nov 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @moledroid

          From what I read it seems people are delaying seeking help during the pandemic which has nothing to do with lockdowns.

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        3. little black drink‏ @green_jeni 15 Nov 2020
          Replying to @maureenchuck1 @GidMK @moledroid

          I think that is also changing now that we know the effects COVID has on the circulatory system and that it can cause heart and lung failure.

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        1. kenlipartito‏ @kenlipartito 14 Nov 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @moledroid

          Conceptually add excess deaths. Subtract deaths from people not seeking help due to virus rather than lockdown. Compare to deaths that result due to out of control virus overwhelming hospitals. Add extra deaths due to rampant COVID. Number due purely to restrictions quite small.

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