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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 10 Nov 2020

    Health Nerd Retweeted louis appleby

    We have pretty good data from America, Australia, and now England, showing quite convincingly that COVID-19 lockdowns are not associated with a rise in suicides, despite fears from earlier this year @jeremyfausthttps://twitter.com/ProfLAppleby/status/1325892757152550912 …

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    louis appleby @ProfLAppleby
    Today we have released suicide data for 2020 covering several parts of England, total population 9 million. The month by month figures are reassuring: they show no rise in suicide following lockdown. Today’s tweets & a few more as a thread. @NCISH_UK http://documents.manchester.ac.uk/display.aspx?D …
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      2. Ian Sharp-Smith‏ @Iansharpsmithy 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @GidMK @jeremyfaust

        This is actually quite dodgy data and conflicts with London Ambulance reports, although not covering the same area. I wouldn't give this much credibility

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      2. epsilon‏ @epsilon3141 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @GidMK @jeremyfaust

        People commiting suicide as a result of external stress is a myth anyway Even in poorest of the poor countries or in war times, suicide rates are usually not elevated. People commit S because of depression which is most often "dying from inside" and not due to external pressure

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      3. Christian( 🏠)‏ @chris0x9912 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @epsilon3141 @GidMK @jeremyfaust

        A couple of voices i heard during the first lockdown claimed that there was a lot less stress due to the reduced social interaction... bettering the depression. I wouldn't take that for granted, and it will depend on the person - but it's something to look at, as well.

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      1. Brad F‏ @enfoqueluz 10 Nov 2020
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      2. allister clark‏ @ClarkAllister 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @GidMK @MackayIM @jeremyfaust

        Sadly there is a counter example in Belgium. Noting we are now on #Lockdown2 (whilst not referred to as such, non-essential businesses are closed, triggering economic hardship & knock-on mental health risks + the care sector has been overwhelmed) 😔https://www.thebulletin.be/almost-many-suicides-recorded-brussels-year-whole-2019 …

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      3. allister clark‏ @ClarkAllister 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @ClarkAllister @GidMK and

        Countries with a big GDP hit are at greater risk of collateral damage. Those also are likely to have a bigger direct health hit i.e. covid19-specific mortality i.e. because the GDP hit is Lockdown-consequent e.g. Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, UK (in the West)

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      1. Meru Sheel‏Verified account @merusheel 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @GidMK @jeremyfaust

        What about mental health indicators??

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      1. Mike‏ @Hongma123 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @GidMK @jeremyfaust

        No more lockdown. Just wear mask.

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      2. Jon Mattleman‏ @jonmattleman 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @GidMK @PatrickDoyle_35 @jeremyfaust

        This may be true, but #suicide related to #COVID are a more worrisome matter... and we won’t really know about this for another year or so. One of the most protective factors in keeping people alive is having eyes on that person — in lockdown we had eyes on each other.

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      3. Patrick Doyle HeHim #BLM #RIPRBG Practice Kindness‏ @PatrickDoyle_35 10 Nov 2020
        Replying to @jonmattleman @GidMK @jeremyfaust

        comments show many are skeptical of this data

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