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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @gshotwell @NoahHaber

      I'd say that Noah's original point, that all the evidence for Vit D is entirely explicable through the research being flawed in design, still holds perfectly true despite the increase in the number of studies

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    2. Gordon Shotwell‏ @gshotwell 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @NoahHaber

      I assumed as much. But you're against mask mandates right? That seems wronger to me, but more consistent.

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @gshotwell @NoahHaber

      Am I?

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    4. Gordon Shotwell‏ @gshotwell 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @NoahHaber

      Oh, I could be wrong about that. If so, why do you have different evidentiary standards for vitamin D and cloth masks?

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @gshotwell @NoahHaber

      Do I?

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    6. Gordon Shotwell‏ @gshotwell 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @NoahHaber

      I assumed that's the case since you are all like "we need a large double blind RCT before taking small doses of vitamin D"

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @gshotwell @NoahHaber

      Now you're literally putting words in my mouth

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    8. Gordon Shotwell‏ @gshotwell 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @NoahHaber

      Gordon Shotwell Retweeted Health Nerd

      Oh sorry that's how I read this thread (pilot study isn't enough evidence to take a supplement, we need a bigger double blind study to do that)https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1303559391061225472?s=19 …

      Gordon Shotwell added,

      Health NerdVerified account @GidMK
      I think most scientists would just read this as a tiny pilot study, and await better data That's certainly my opinion - there are too many potential sources of bias here to make any solid conclusions
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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @gshotwell @NoahHaber

      It's not just the size, it's the sources of bias. As I've said (and I think Noah would agree), the evidence around Vit D for COVID-19 is currently far too weak to make any causal claims

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    10. Gordon Shotwell‏ @gshotwell 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @NoahHaber

      So I guess what I'm asking is why is the evidence for masks that strong? Or alternatively why do we need a bullet proof casual claim to take a supplement?

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @gshotwell @NoahHaber

      I never said it was? And I never said you do? I do think people underplay the potential costs of the multibillion dollar supplement industry, but that being said my point is that there's no good evidence vit D has a benefit for COVID-19 - do you agree?

      3:32 PM - 14 Sep 2020
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        2. Gordon Shotwell‏ @gshotwell 15 Sep 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @NoahHaber

          I'm not sure honestly, I think at this point the causal story is more plausible than the acausal one, prior to the spanish trial I would've said that there's probably a 1/5 chance that vitamin D was a cause, now probably more like 6/10.

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        3. Gordon Shotwell‏ @gshotwell 15 Sep 2020
          Replying to @gshotwell @GidMK @NoahHaber

          But even if it's just a 1/100 chance that it helps, supplementation is a no brainer especially in correctional and long term care facilities where vitamin D deficiency is extremely common.

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