Can you please show me the source of the data for that graph? I'd like to see the data that suggests that a minority of COVID-19 deaths in Sweden are directly due to COVID-19. Pretty sure even the British recategorisation hasn't led to any such conclusion.
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Nikhil Karkhanis Retweeted Andreas Lönnmo 🏳️🌈
https://twitter.com/JarvsoLonnmo/status/1302593580012371969?s=19 … The source is right there in the thread. Unfortunately in Swedish, but has been explained by others.
Nikhil Karkhanis added,
Andreas Lönnmo 🏳️🌈 @JarvsoLonnmoReplying to @craniosurgeon @jhnhellstrom and 2 othersYou can read the report from ”Östergötland” Unfortunately not translated to English but Google translate will du the trick. This report reflects death outside hospitals https://www.regionostergotland.se/contentassets/621708f279b94b0e84fc3e4e2f5a337e/dodsfall-med-covid-19-pa-sarskilda-boenden-eller-i-eget-hem-i-ostergotland.pdf …2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Well that source contradicts the graph, according to Google Translate at least. It's also only about a tiny subset of care home patients in one part of Sweden
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They have both data, in hospital and out of hospital. Their point is that Covid on it's own rarely kills. You need to be elderly, and have comorbidities.
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That's incorrect. Our meta-analysis showed remarkably high death rates even in middle age, with an exponential increasehttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v4 …
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This paper gives an IFR of 0.4 at age 55, 1.3% at 65, so I don't see how you conclude remarkably high middle aged mortality.
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That's extremely high. The death rate for 50-64 from influenza estimated by the CDC is ~0.03%, which is about 13 times lower than the IFR for 55 year olds and 40 times lower than the IFR for 65 year olds from covid
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No one says that Covid is innocuous. What I am saying is that it is not so bad that the societal reaction is justified. And lockdowns are going to kill far more people than the theoretical lives saved
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Nonsense. You called it a "mild infection" and said that on it's own it "rarely kills". You were incorrect
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No. Read it again. I said that's true for most of the population, not all.
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The full quote is just as incorrect. The implication that only elderly people or the very sick die is wrong. As I said, you were and are mistaken
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That is the correct implication. The not so elderly and the healthy do not die at a rate higher than that for other conditions. India had a crude death rate before Covid, of 7 per thousand. That means, 27000 die every day. We have had perhaps a 100 daily excess deaths.
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