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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 20 Aug 2020

    Health Nerd Retweeted Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.substack.com

    The obvious answer is that it's always been more complex than "masks do/don't work" and the absurd dichotomization of the question by both sides is going to end badlyhttps://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1296255802932629505 …

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    Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.substack.comVerified account @JordanSchachtel
    If masks work, what the actual hell is happening in Los Angeles, where masks have been compulsory and the population has fully complied with the mandates. Chart by @ianmSC, who is a solid follow. pic.twitter.com/AC0NrcSQgN
    2:55 PM - 20 Aug 2020
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      2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 20 Aug 2020

        I imagine there will be many examples soon of places where mask mandates were enacted that nevertheless had large outbreaks. There will probably soon be research arguing that they are useless This wouldn't be such a big issue if they hadn't been sold as a silver bullet!

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      3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 20 Aug 2020

        It's just an annoying aspect of how the discourse is framed. If you argue MASKS WORK ALWAYS AND TOTALLY, then you'll inevitably be tripped up

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      4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 20 Aug 2020

        I mean, the IHME model has, for weeks now, argued that masks could save 10,000s of lives in the U.S. I wonder if they'll reconfigure that to a more realistic estimate

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      2. Clayton Clent‏ @ClaytonClent 20 Aug 2020
        Replying to @GidMK

        The US is a bin fire. Has been for months. At least locally, the messaging around masks, once they were mandated, was that they were a low cost response that had some, but not sufficient effect, on transmission.

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      3. Tom Andrews 💙‏ @0bj3ctivity 20 Aug 2020
        Replying to @ClaytonClent @GidMK

        Where is your evidence they don't have sufficient effect on transmission to help control the pandemic?

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      1. Shmem‏ @emkwood 20 Aug 2020
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        I'm working retail, all masked up... It's baffling how many people don't wear masks properly, or wear the same mask every day, or don't practice distancing or hand washing because the mask gives a false sense of security. Masks probably do work, in theory?

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      1. Jon Huang, MPH, PhD | BLM |  🙏🏽‏ @jon_y_huang 20 Aug 2020
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        Surely you mean it will end somewhere on the continuum from good to bad? 🙃 Turns out people are situationally more or less adept at counterfactual thinking, and for complex (i.e. most) issues, we focus on 1 particular dimension, so e.g. neglect secular trends. Researchers, too!

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      1. Tarek Milleron‏ @TarekMilleron 20 Aug 2020
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        Tarek Milleron @TarekMilleron
        Yes, masks work: longer safe time, x, at exposure, y. At very high exposures a mask might give you 2x, but x might be 3 sec. At low exposures, x might be hours. Common sense. Soft fabrics allow better fit for masks. Keep your nose inside! https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/coronavirus-aerosols.html?smid=tw-share …
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