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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @jeremy_gans

      The US only just - in 2020! - made it illegal to fire people for being transgender. But the horrors of a few people being fired unfairly for social media faux pas has prompted such widespread outrage among these powerful writers that they decided to get together and be angry

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @jeremy_gans

      And more broadly, the non-Shor examples cited in the letter could quite easily be described not as "chilling silencing" but as "perfectly foreseeable consequences of awful public opinions"

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    3. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      Are any of these about 'awful public opinions'?: "books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity; journalists are barred from writing on certain topics; professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class"pic.twitter.com/BetMgDIML5

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jeremy_gans

      Well, to be fair they are such general statements that they could refer to literally anything, but they seem to relate to recent incidents (such as books being withdrawn from publishing due to Rowling's public comments) that are indeed related to such opinions

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    5. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      I think again you're missing the context - it's about YA books and diversity/sensitivity: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/31/books/amelie-wen-zhao-blood-heir-ya-author-pulls-debut-accusations-racism.html …. There was an author sacked for tweeting a Rowling hashtag, but no books withdrawn yet AFAIK, and certainly not over 'inauthenticity': https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/scots-author-sacked-backing-jk-rowling-2904530 …

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    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jeremy_gans

      Lol, if that's the situation they're referring to it's even more absurd. As if someone voluntarily withdrawing their book over perceived racist overtones is horrifying silencing of the worst order

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    7. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      OK, that's a different debate (where the words 'chilling effect' and 'new authors without a contract' would feature and 'the worst order' wouldn't.) But I take it you agree that that example is nothing to do with either Rowling or 'really awful opinions'?

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    8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jeremy_gans

      Not Rowling but I'd say racism fits the bill of awful opinions

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @jeremy_gans

      Some might argue that withdrawing a book because of perceived racism with the publisher still willing and happy to engage is a great example of making a mistake and learning from it rather than being silencedpic.twitter.com/E7e9qcmfB1

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    10. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      Some would, I'm sure. But others would argue that it'd be good if Asian writers felt free to set stories about slavery in an Asian setting, right? It's a hard case to paint as a 'great example'.

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jeremy_gans

      I'm not sure how someone voluntarily withdrawing their book once it was pointed out that it had racist overtones is in any way an example of the "chilling" and "censorious" nature of our culture

      7:42 PM - 8 Jul 2020
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        2. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
          Replying to @GidMK

          No possible effect you can think of on the next Asian YA author thinking of writing about slavery in Asian? Or a future publisher of that novel?

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
          Replying to @jeremy_gans

          I'm not saying it's not having an effect, I'm saying calling this silencing is a ridiculous overreach. It's equating an unfortunate allusion with laws restricting freedom of speech

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