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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @jeremy_gans

      There's no campaign to re-hire people, no investment in a legal fund to defend them, just a ridiculous letter decrying the horrors of "cancellation"

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    2. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      Dozens of the signatories launched just such a campaign last week: https://www.persuasion.community/p/our-board . The organiser is Yascha Mounk, who wrote the article on David Shor and others that I linked to earlier.

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jeremy_gans

      That's much less ridiculous than the letter. Part of the problem is that "cancel culture" is a phrase that is largely used by people instead of "foreseeable consequences"

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    4. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      Yes. Note that the letter doesn't use the word 'cancel'. The word it uses is 'censoriousness', defined as: 'an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming and ostracism, and the tendency to dissolve complex policy issues in a blinding moral certainty.'

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jeremy_gans

      I mean, they use the term "silence". It's not like they're hiding the meaning

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    6. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      Of course not, but you did single out the phrase. And 'silence' is paired with 'or wish them away', and juxtaposed with 'exposure, argument, and persuasion'.

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jeremy_gans

      I'm not denying it's a well-written letter, I'm saying the ideas contained therein are absurd

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    8. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK

      But your point so far in this thread is that the 153 aren't in danger and don't care about anyone else. I think that second bit is untrue, but - in any case - isn't your point that David Shor should have written this letter, not the 153. So, it's NOT the ideas that are absurd?

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @jeremy_gans

      My point is that there may be some people who've been fired unfairly, but the general thrust of this letter - that there is a chilling censorious culture robbing people of their freedoms of speech - is nonsense

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    10. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @jeremy_gans

      The vast majority of people who are fired for their beliefs and attitudes are not high-profile writers on twitter, they are minorities who are not well-protected by legislation. The idea that "silencing" is a major concern makes no sense whatsoever in context

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @jeremy_gans

      The US only just - in 2020! - made it illegal to fire people for being transgender. But the horrors of a few people being fired unfairly for social media faux pas has prompted such widespread outrage among these powerful writers that they decided to get together and be angry

      6:37 PM - 8 Jul 2020
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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 8 Jul 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @jeremy_gans

          And more broadly, the non-Shor examples cited in the letter could quite easily be described not as "chilling silencing" but as "perfectly foreseeable consequences of awful public opinions"

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        3. Jeremy Gans‏ @jeremy_gans 8 Jul 2020
          Replying to @GidMK

          Are any of these about 'awful public opinions'?: "books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity; journalists are barred from writing on certain topics; professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class"pic.twitter.com/BetMgDIML5

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