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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
      Replying to @ADAlthousePhD @reverendofdoubt and

      I think this is pretty clear in terms of the state data. Neither Vic not NSW provided data to the database - extracted or automatedpic.twitter.com/9IZhqIjCbG

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @ADAlthousePhD and

      But also, I feel like I haven't explained well. Individual Aussie hospitals are owned and operated by the states, so if the state health department says they don't use the database they mean none of the hospitals do either

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    3. Andrew Althouse‏ @ADAlthousePhD 28 May 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @reverendofdoubt and

      Yes, that's the thing I'm trying to understand (from across the world and in a different healthcare system). In the US, a hospital could join such a "collaborative" and provide their data without the "state health department" having any say in the matter.

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
      Replying to @ADAlthousePhD @reverendofdoubt and

      Nah they couldn't here. Private hospitals could, but there aren't that many and they haven't treated any COVID cases (many don't have ICUs)

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @ADAlthousePhD and

      The hospitals are literally the property of the state government, so if they say they aren't a part of the scheme, then that would usually mean none of the hospitals in the state did

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
      Replying to @reverendofdoubt @ADAlthousePhD and

      I mean, they said the data didn't come from them or reconcile with their COVID data. Not sure you can get more explicit than that

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
      Replying to @reverendofdoubt @ADAlthousePhD and

      I understand your point. You're arguing that some hospitals have gone against the state legislation and/or policy and independently signed up to the database. I can't entirely exclude the possibility, but if so it's going to be a pretty massive scandal here

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
      Replying to @reverendofdoubt @ADAlthousePhD and

      I think I should explain a bit more, because how the system works here is important. Individual hospitals here aren't self-governing - they report up to some sort of local area network, who reports up to the state government

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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @reverendofdoubt and

          Now, it varies from state to state, but in NSW and Victoria that's basically how it works - individual hospitals literally don't *own* the data, it's owned by a state corporation that reports up to the state health department

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 28 May 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @reverendofdoubt and

          At the absolute minimum, you'd need to get one of these local corporations to sign off. But, there's a problem, because they answer to the state govt, and while they technically have the ability to do this sort of deal, in practice it's governed by local policy

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