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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Andrew Althouse‏ @ADAlthousePhD 26 May 2020
      Replying to @ADAlthousePhD @walidgellad and

      I haven't been monitoring the pandemic in Australia, but any patient that was "hospitalized" on, say, April 12, could be included in their analysis. If they died on April 17, they don't show up in the country's death count on 4/14 but could be in the analysis as a death.

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 26 May 2020
      Replying to @ADAlthousePhD @walidgellad and

      I find this somewhat unlikely. Even if you accept that every death could be captured in such a database, it would require more than 5 hospitals - 73 deaths includes every single state and a territory. At minimum that's 7 hospitals

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 26 May 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @ADAlthousePhD and

      But even more, I'm fairly certain not every death occurred in a single hospital in each state (I'd have to check). We've only had ~100 deaths altogether, so even if they include every death until now from 5 hospitals it seems weird

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 26 May 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @ADAlthousePhD and

      Also, the sort of database that's described above is fiendishly hard to do in Aus. We have very secure data protection laws - if nothing else, the data usually has to be housed here. Moreover, in most cases doing research of this kind without ethics is illegal

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 26 May 2020
      Replying to @reverendofdoubt @ADAlthousePhD and

      While that's no doubt true, I've never heard of such a thing in Australia. But if it had happened, they would've had an ethics approval (albeit a broad one) rather than done the research without it

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 26 May 2020
      Replying to @reverendofdoubt @ADAlthousePhD and

      Yes. But if that's the case, how do they have every COVID death in the country in a database?

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 26 May 2020
      Replying to @reverendofdoubt @ADAlthousePhD and

      I should say - it's *possible* but I'm very skeptical. Public hospitals (where all Aus COVID cases have been treated) aren't governed independently here - they are run by area services governed by the state. 5 hospitals implies at most 2 area services, which means max 2 states

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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 26 May 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @reverendofdoubt and

          And this sort of project would almost certainly need the state minister's sign-off. So they've got an existing arrangement with 2 state governments that allows them to extract potentially reidentifiable data from Aus hospitals and send it overseas? Hard to see it happen here

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        3. Swapnil Hiremath‏ @hswapnil 26 May 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @reverendofdoubt and

          reminds me of the Deep Mind and NHS story https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40483202 … (again - I have no idea of legalities involved and find it hard to believe brazen fraud)

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