aside from the methods problems, I just want some explanation of how the number of deaths at the five hospitals in their Australia sample exceeds the total number of deaths in Australia at that time. There could be a simple explanation.
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Replying to @walidgellad @reverendofdoubt and
I think the "deaths by April 14" and "hospitalizations by April 14" distinction *could* explain that. If patients hospitalized before April 14 died after April 14, they could appear in the analysis as deaths, but would not appear in the country's death count on April 14.
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Replying to @ADAlthousePhD @walidgellad and
I haven't been monitoring the pandemic in Australia, but any patient that was "hospitalized" on, say, April 12, could be included in their analysis. If they died on April 17, they don't show up in the country's death count on 4/14 but could be in the analysis as a death.
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Replying to @ADAlthousePhD @walidgellad and
I find this somewhat unlikely. Even if you accept that every death could be captured in such a database, it would require more than 5 hospitals - 73 deaths includes every single state and a territory. At minimum that's 7 hospitals
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Replying to @GidMK @ADAlthousePhD and
But even more, I'm fairly certain not every death occurred in a single hospital in each state (I'd have to check). We've only had ~100 deaths altogether, so even if they include every death until now from 5 hospitals it seems weird
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Replying to @GidMK @ADAlthousePhD and
Also, the sort of database that's described above is fiendishly hard to do in Aus. We have very secure data protection laws - if nothing else, the data usually has to be housed here. Moreover, in most cases doing research of this kind without ethics is illegal
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Replying to @reverendofdoubt @ADAlthousePhD and
While that's no doubt true, I've never heard of such a thing in Australia. But if it had happened, they would've had an ethics approval (albeit a broad one) rather than done the research without it
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Yes. But if that's the case, how do they have every COVID death in the country in a database?
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Replying to @reverendofdoubt @ADAlthousePhD and
I should say - it's *possible* but I'm very skeptical. Public hospitals (where all Aus COVID cases have been treated) aren't governed independently here - they are run by area services governed by the state. 5 hospitals implies at most 2 area services, which means max 2 states
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