Are these people who don't have a PhD or who do? I like to think that most of us PhD holders realize it's more like "joining a club" than necessarily showing expertise in a narrow domain.
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I am working on my PhD too! It's a long way.
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You "still doing your PhD" is still years ahead of most people
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But the day after your defence means you have so much more knowledge and skills than the day before your defence.
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