...and not controlling for important factors (i.e. maternal substance use) could easily have led to a spurious result. It's also quite worrying, given they used logistic regression, that they don't report the numbers in each group. It appears the weekly soy intake group...
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...may have been quite small, which would make the logistic regression unreliable. There was also a very high attrition rate for the follow-up data, which they examine in the supplementaries, and could have completely reversed some of those associations
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Replying to @GidMK @PlomeekSoup and
So you want to see a larger sized, even more rigorous test? So do I, so do I. Preferably before soy consumption increases.
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I mean, not really? Seems like a very weak association at best, while soy consumption orders of magnitude higher than this is the norm for the majority of humans on the planet
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I mean, the highest category of soy consumption in that study was "weekly+". It's not uncommon in South Korea (for example) to eat soy with ~every meal~
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You haven't been paying attention - 1) weekly+ includes highest consumers, incl all-the-timers. 2) Asian diets supply 10-15% of isoflavones one can get from western processed soy if you're interested in this question, you need to understand the differencehttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814616306537 …
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Replying to @puddleg @PlomeekSoup and
It was an aggregate category, so included anyone who ate ~any~ soy more than once per week (given the small numbers in the category I suspect it was mostly people who ate tofu/soy sauce only)
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Also, that study looks at "traditional" cooking techniques, I doubt most people in Asian countries hand-make their own tofu any more
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But our idea that they are "healthy" is also based on out-dated data, so...
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Replying to @puddleg @PlomeekSoup and
Never said soy was healthy per se, I doubt there are any massive benefits to eating it, I just find the argument that it's causing substance abuse disorders about as strong as the ideas that chili peppers prevent heart disease
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And substantially less well supported than the theory that red meat causes cancer (which I do not agree with either)
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