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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Plomeek Soup‏ @PlomeekSoup 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @puddleg @johnzahorik and

      "data from food frequency questionnaires"... Must be one of those days when FFQs are valid again. I'm sure it'll last. Also, maternal meat consumption would be linked to mother's socioeconomic status wouldn't it?

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    2. George Henderson‏ @puddleg 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @PlomeekSoup @johnzahorik and

      The gene variant analysis answers confounding questions. Survey questions are qualitative as well as quantitative. RR is decent size. And in our culture the privileged have been early adopters of plant-based diets. 1/2

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    3. George Henderson‏ @puddleg 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @puddleg @PlomeekSoup and

      And if there hasn't been enough research to satisfy you, then, given the importance of the question of children's happiness, and the blackmailing push onto to plant-based junk food, doesn't this prove negligence on the part of public health authorities, more than anything? 2/2

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @puddleg @PlomeekSoup and

      Lots of loaded language there, but probably worth pointing out that this study on soy is no more convincing than the ~many~ similar trials showing associations between meat consumption and a host of negative outcomes. Using a single measure of dietary exposure...

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @puddleg and

      ...and not controlling for important factors (i.e. maternal substance use) could easily have led to a spurious result. It's also quite worrying, given they used logistic regression, that they don't report the numbers in each group. It appears the weekly soy intake group...

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    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @puddleg and

      ...may have been quite small, which would make the logistic regression unreliable. There was also a very high attrition rate for the follow-up data, which they examine in the supplementaries, and could have completely reversed some of those associations

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    7. George Henderson‏ @puddleg 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @PlomeekSoup and

      So you want to see a larger sized, even more rigorous test? So do I, so do I. Preferably before soy consumption increases.

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    8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @puddleg @PlomeekSoup and

      I mean, not really? Seems like a very weak association at best, while soy consumption orders of magnitude higher than this is the norm for the majority of humans on the planet

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 14 Jan 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @puddleg and

      I mean, the highest category of soy consumption in that study was "weekly+". It's not uncommon in South Korea (for example) to eat soy with ~every meal~

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    10. George Henderson‏ @puddleg 15 Jan 2020
      Replying to @GidMK @PlomeekSoup and

      You haven't been paying attention - 1) weekly+ includes highest consumers, incl all-the-timers. 2) Asian diets supply 10-15% of isoflavones one can get from western processed soy if you're interested in this question, you need to understand the differencehttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814616306537 …

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 15 Jan 2020
      Replying to @puddleg @PlomeekSoup and

      It was an aggregate category, so included anyone who ate ~any~ soy more than once per week (given the small numbers in the category I suspect it was mostly people who ate tofu/soy sauce only)

      11:36 AM - 15 Jan 2020
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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 15 Jan 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @puddleg and

          Also, that study looks at "traditional" cooking techniques, I doubt most people in Asian countries hand-make their own tofu any more

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        3. George Henderson‏ @puddleg 15 Jan 2020
          Replying to @GidMK @PlomeekSoup and

          But our idea that they are "healthy" is also based on out-dated data, so...

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