But in that case the epidemiological evidence is very consistently protective/beneficial. You can discount the evidence, sure, but that's different from the studies not showing the effect you're arguing for at all
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Replying to @GidMK @zoeharcombe
It's rather parallel. Show me the epidemiology on no plants vs plants. Isn't that exactly the mirror of your complaint?
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @zoeharcombe
Oh, there's a wealth of epidemiological evidence for the good health of vegetarians. I linked to quite a few studies in my blog. I don't think it's necessarily causal, but the effect is extremely solid i.e.https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/337301 …
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Replying to @GidMK @zoeharcombe
You specifically complained about there not being comparisons in the mental health studies comparing no meat vs meat included. I'm saying there aren't any studies comparing no plants vs plants included.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @zoeharcombe
Oh, right misunderstood. Yes absolutely true, but I thought we were arguing about whether vegetarians were at an increased risk of depression, not whether carnivores were
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Replying to @GidMK @zoeharcombe
Ah. In this case I meant that this is how I feel about the basis of the idea that it's more healthy (vague, I know) to eat plants than not to. I think that hasn't actually been studied, and people are just using not-exactly-applicable epidemiology combined with speculations.
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Replying to @Travis_Statham @KetoCarnivore and
I've already tried to get Gid to go carnivore, but maybe he hasn't read your site.
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My site is a bit of a mess. When I get back from Low Carb Houston ("Plant-Based or Carnivore: What's the best for mTOR"), I'm going to work on the book and better organisation of all my previous work.
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Not that I'm invested in Gid's diet! I just want to organise my ideas so they're easier to follow. I like talking to Gid precisely because he doesn't just believe everything I say. I want help thinking more than I want high fives.
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I enjoy these conversations too. While we disagree, I find that your arguments are quite well thought out, which makes the discussion interesting!
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