My site is a bit of a mess. When I get back from Low Carb Houston ("Plant-Based or Carnivore: What's the best for mTOR"), I'm going to work on the book and better organisation of all my previous work.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @Travis_Statham and
Not that I'm invested in Gid's diet! I just want to organise my ideas so they're easier to follow. I like talking to Gid precisely because he doesn't just believe everything I say. I want help thinking more than I want high fives.
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Haha yeah I like following him too. And he isn't explicitly anti-low-carb like us.
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Replying to @Travis_Statham @KetoCarnivore and
Epidemiology is hard to understand.
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Agreed. After a masters, part of a PhD, and years in the field I can honestly say I'm still scratching the surface. It's a very complex field
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Gid. Question. Why can't epidemiologists gather people who identify to a diet lifestyle and have done it "religiously" in some sort of fashion for a number of years and then compare those people? Is it too spread out to find those people and test them? Maybe even 80 y/os 'Atkins'
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The challenge, especially in the internet age, is rarely identifying people. I'm sure you could find a group of low-carb individuals who've been doing it for a while. The challenge is getting a comparable control group to this very self-selected cohort
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Why do you need a control group? Any diet a person says they do is the answer. Couldn't we study many different diets? Maybe ask how 'hard' people do their diets to measure commitment? Get macro averages and food sources. Not CICO but Keto, veg, vegan, carnivore, pkd, etc.
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That's a pretty fundamental issue in research. As a spectacular epidemiologist I know says, "the biggest problem for any study is regression to the mean" Without a comparison group, impossible to know if your treatment did anything or if it was going to change anyway
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Replying to @GidMK @Travis_Statham and
Most medical interventions (i.e. diets) start when people are feeling bad. Thing is, generally health problems are either cyclical or self-limiting. So sooner or later there will come a time when people feel a bit better than they did on the day they started the diet
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So you need a comparison who is feeling similarly bad but didn't get the intervention to see if everyone was likely to improve anyway or if the treatment actually had some benefit of its own
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I think that everyone has some health aspect they’d like to improve, even beyond obesity.
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