Finally (haha, ok, finally for now) I must be upfront with the fact that my own experience deeply colours my expectations here, since I grew up vegetarian and had progressive bipolar disorder as an adult, that has been in remission since stopping eating plants. I can't unsee it,
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even though I know it's a "one off", in a certain sense (though I know others who had the same experience). I don't know why this happened, but I've had a decade to think about it, and have found many ideas to help explain it, or confirm my biases, depending on view.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @zoeharcombe
So, here's the interesting point - I don't really see an epidemiological argument here. There's a study comparing a SAD-style diet to Mediterranean-style diets, and a hypothesis based on nutrient deficiency
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And the nutrient deficiencies largely seem to be speaking to a low-quality vegetarian diet - as I'm sure you're aware, these can all be rectified by carefully selecting the foods a person eats
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Replying to @GidMK @zoeharcombe
I said that as well, but the relevance depends on the question. If the question is "Does going on a vegetarian diet tend to cause depression?" That's different from "Does it have to?", because it would be looking at what people do, not what they could do.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @zoeharcombe
Not a bad point, but I'd say that the idea that there might be vegetarian diets that could be harmful isn't particularly strong theoretically as support for the idea that vegetarian diets cause depression. A bit like saying that meat is bad because wild-rabbit-only diets are bad
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Replying to @GidMK @zoeharcombe
Well, I'm in a funny position, because don't really want to support the idea of saying that a recently turned vegetarian's depression was caused by it, given the state of the science, but the OP was about what happens in practice, not in best case.
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Wild-rabbit-only diets really are terrible, but most people who try meat-only diets don't accidentally do that.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @zoeharcombe
I'm sure most vegetarians would argue that everyone knows that you have to supplement certain nutrients by eating specific foods, most people don't just go bread-only
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Replying to @GidMK @zoeharcombe
This would be good to get real quantitative information on, actually, though I'm not sure how. What do vegetarians think they need and what do they actually do? It might be different from your or my intuition.
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I'm sure there's been qualitative research on the subject, although not my area of expertise
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